Eaton Fire area open now?

Post by **dima** » Sun Jan 04, 2026 8:58 pm

I'm looking on ANF alerts page. The original closure order expired. Are we good now? Anybody hear anything?

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Sun Jan 04, 2026 9:19 pm

I think you gotta wait for a forest closure termination order that has a termination date. You'll see those for the bridge fire

Post by **Taco** » Mon Jan 05, 2026 12:03 am

A trail runner I know went for a run through there. That's all I've got.

Sewellymon · Post by **Sewellymon** » Mon Jan 05, 2026 6:44 am

you can check Strava to see what people are poaching. i know lots of folks going up Chaney Trial/ Mt. Lowe Rd, for instance...

David R · Post by **David R** » Mon Jan 05, 2026 10:26 am

The order is over but it sounds like when they wake up and realize this that they will extend it.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Mon Jan 05, 2026 5:31 pm

would concur....friends of Eaton facebook had a nice post of myeatoncanyon. The recovery has been delayed.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/76938058649/

There will be a large group of hikers seeing the greenery and water...so I dont know if this can be stopped this spring. I hope it cant be stopped.

Post by **Sean** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:42 am

I drove by the Eaton Canyon Natural Area on Saturday and the entrances are all still fenced off and closed with warning signs. So even if they don't renew the closure order, the main trailheads in Altadena are inaccessible. Also, the Arroyos and Foothills Conservancy hasn't reopened the Rubio Canyon Preserve. My trail crew hasn't finished restoring the trails. And I think nature needs another year or two to revegetate the area and reshape the water course. We probably won't be able to restore the main Rubio Creek crossing for another year. This last series of storms finally washed away a lot of sediment, and the crossing might be close to the bedrock now, but we need to see what happens with all the upstream debris coming down.

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Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 4:28 pm

I read on some facebook post out of Sierra Madre that the closure order has been extended. I'm too lazy to try and find real evidence of this.

For those who are good at research...go for it

lol

Post by **Sean** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:28 pm

They extended it for another two years.

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 9:54 pm

Sean wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 6:28 pm They extended it for another two years.

Thanks Sean. As I previously mentioned in the Mt. Wilson Trail maintenance thread, it looks like everything to the east of the Mt. Wilson Trail is now open and that everything west of the Mt. Wilson Trail is still closed.

Post by **dima** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 10:03 pm

The new map shows Mt Lowe rd as the border. What does that mean about Mt Lowe Rd?

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 10:28 pm

dima wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 10:03 pm The new map shows Mt Lowe rd as the border. What does that mean about Mt Lowe Rd?

I would interpret it as the road is open. Same as mt. Wilson trail is open.

Is that what you're asking?

Post by **dima** » Tue Jan 06, 2026 10:31 pm

HikeUp wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 10:28 pm
dima wrote: Tue Jan 06, 2026 10:03 pm The new map shows Mt Lowe rd as the border. What does that mean about Mt Lowe Rd?
I would interpret it as the road is open. Same as mt. Wilson trail is open.

Is that what you're asking?

That's what I was asking. Thanks.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Jan 07, 2026 10:18 pm

not sure if this duplicates the link Sean provided..sorry if it is. Damn I'm getting really lazy.

https://www.fs.usda.gov/r05/angeles/ale ... yBdeBv2Xcg

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:04 am

Well, I asked AI if it was safe to go to Rubio..joining the modern trend.
It said Rubio was closed due to its programming that land managers have authority.
As time went on I think it was agreeing with me, or it could be condescending...but it had to go with land mangers know best.
Later it agreed with me..? Then it was like my 'best friend'?

Overall not too bad. It summarizes well imo. "The peril of written history(the nanny state)"
So what changed? It wasnt me, but "sources", which were its collective direction. So there was "the truth" and "your truth".

Post by **Sean** » Thu Jan 08, 2026 12:18 pm

AW~ wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:04 am Well, I asked AI if it was safe to go to Rubio...

Everyone knows Rubio's unsafe because Sasquatch.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Thu Jan 08, 2026 2:24 pm

Sean wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 12:18 pm
AW~ wrote: Thu Jan 08, 2026 9:04 am Well, I asked AI if it was safe to go to Rubio...
Everyone knows Rubio's unsafe because Sasquatch.

Shoot, maybe. It takes too long to talk to AI. I typically have to mention high-level topics , like to a kid, to get answers that stick.
Its asking why doesnt the city of LA sell tickets on Air5...for the 3rd time.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Fri Jan 09, 2026 9:49 am

I asked it. The answer was wrong the first go round. It said sassquatch doesnt exist.
Just like before it improved before I had to basically tell it the answer. And then viola. Its woke. Now its a freaking expert lol.
"the myth's success in enforcing its restrictive goal is rooted in an almost predictive understanding of modern cognitive concepts:...The enduring lesson here is that effective access control (the Nanny State's goal) is not achieved by building fences, but by creating an effective, high-scoring cognitive deterrent that forces the individual to believe the area is too hard to safely navigate. The modern equivalent of this is complex permit systems and dire public warning campaigns."

"Low-Cost Access Control: Before expensive permits, SAR resources, and lawsuits, Sasquatch was the cheapest form of access control in the San Gabriels. It imposed a psychological "closure" on the remote, high-cost areas.
Externalized Blame: If someone went out and died, the community could simply say, "The Sasquatch took them," externalizing the failure onto a supernatural force instead of confronting the real, systemic failure of competence.
The myth is still alive today because the fundamental Nanny State impulse to say "You are in danger, stay home" has never died; it has simply been replaced by more modern, bureaucratic mechanisms (liability warnings, park closures, and the over-use of "unsafe conditions" warnings).
The SAR professional's job is to manage the risk of the people who defied the original myth."

Post by **HikeUp** » Fri Jan 09, 2026 10:17 am

AW~ wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 9:49 am systemic failure of competence

aka

humanity

Post by **Taco** » Fri Jan 09, 2026 11:37 am

I love this very much. I shall now use Sasquatch in debates online with the angry people who tell me they’re looking forward to seeing my obituary for climbing baldy in winter. Little do they know I shall merely morph into a samsquanch.

Matthew · Post by **Matthew** » Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:01 pm

At this point, we all know that Sasquatch is the only one allowed into all closures and the government doesn't care. It's been exploring the bridge fire burn area since the bridge fire closure started and nobody has complained about that.

If sasquatch can do it, then certainly I can do it!

Post by **HikeUp** » Fri Jan 09, 2026 1:43 pm