I notice that it's signed by Martin Dumpis and that it says "Acting Forest Supervisor" below his signature. Sounds like Ms. Norion may truly have gotten overwhelmed.
Map of the area closed
I can't tell from the crummy map if the SBNF portion is open or not.
LA Times is reporting that Stony Ridge Observatory on Mt. Mooney and Camp Colby in Upper Big T. have survive the fire. New brusher just broke out in Rolling Hills/Palos Verde near the Torrance Border.
scott johnson wrote:LA Times is reporting that Stony Ridge Observatory on Mt. Mooney and Camp Colby in Upper Big T. have survive the fire. New brusher just broke out in Rolling Hills/Palos Verde near the Torrance Border.
Any word on Loomis Ranch area?
I did some hiking down there with the Son of the owner a year or two back looking for wreckage from the F86? Midair collision in 1959?
The loomis cabin and all that is a chunk of history to be sure
scott johnson wrote:Matt regarding Loomis Ranch, I was in youch with someone who had created a historical webpage on the site. Will attempt to get updated info.
Scott
Yeah unfortunately he's not one of the current owners of the property
I was hoping someone you know might have had a chance look down in there
The data I've seen shown it was spared but... who knows
Community Meeting
Station Fire Unified Command will be hosting a community meeting in the town of Pasadena tonight for the purpose of updating the public on the current fire situation and expected actions.
First Church of the Nazarene
3700 E. Sierra Madre Blvd.
Pasadena, California 91107
7:00 PM
JUST IN: LA-area wildfire caused by arson, Forest Service says
By PE News on September 3, 2009 6:03 PM | Comments (0)
The U.S. Forest Service says arson is the cause of the wildfire north of Los Angeles that killed two firefighters.
Los Angeles County Sheriff's deputies have launched a homicide investigation into the fire that has destroyed more than five dozen homes and burned 226 square miles. Two firefighters died Sunday when their truck careened off a steep mountain road.
Hikin_Jim wrote:Community Meeting
Station Fire Unified Command will be hosting a community meeting in the town of Pasadena tonight for the purpose of updating the public on the current fire situation and expected actions.
First Church of the Nazarene
3700 E. Sierra Madre Blvd.
Pasadena, California 91107
7:00 PM
I have to work until 8:00 in Santa Clarita - is anyone going? Can anyone whine pitifully on behalf of Waternman/Buckhorn for me? Not that it will do any good, but it'll sure make me FEEL better.
was talking to someone yesterday about Three Points being a natural spot that would act as a focal point for flames heading uphill. With that in mind, dozer crews were cutting line near there yesterday. Our fire road on the west end of the Valcrest property heads down canyon just east of the parking area.
Hikin_Jim wrote:Closure smosure! We don't need no stinkin' closure!
I didn't see any indication that the Monroe Truck Trail was closed though I guess that's considered "East." Didn't they say the entire ANF was closed until Station is extinguished?
Everything east of Hwy 14 is closed in the ANF.
What I was saying is that there are "fingers" poking into the National Forest Lands that belong to cities like LA, Pasadena, Monrovia, etc. Those might be open for hiking sooner than the ANF.
Don't like to be Negative Nelly here - but what are the chances of catching this person?,,,,,,,,,,, wait scratch that, this 'Fvck-face-selfish-piece-of-hell-trash-that-makes-me-wanna-agree-with-the-death-penalty' bastard that started this fire?
If you like fires, set yourself on one...
Unbelievable that someone would do this and they around us, hopefully for not too long - pure devil business, they have no love in their heart or soul.
Instead of a controlled 1,700 acre burn, it's a quarter of a million marginally managed burn that's mostly out of control.
I wonder if the real reason was lack of money. Maybe someone is trying to protect funding decisions and redirecting of money or priorities elsewhere.
Funny how rumors start. Tomorrow it might be shown on FOX "News" that President Obama started it while trying to burn his real birth certificate.
Actually, I thought you were the conspiracy theory guy.
In all seriousness, management of initial resources needs to be examined, and there may well have been an effort to save money, as units were released early on when the fire was relatively small and chances to contain it were better. Money is one thing, human life is another!
I honestly think that a lot of resources went to the Morris fire and when this broke out they started too slow and then had an oww shiiittt moment when they realized the error. If your into conspiracies and rumors, you can think USFS minimized resources to cover their error in starting the fire.
As of Thursday, September 3, at 6:00 p.m. Angeles Crest Christian Camp is safe. However, the fire is near the camp and firefighters are trying to hold it back!
This afternoon and evening will be the critical time for the camp. The fire is near camp and the 500 or so firefighters are doing there best to hold back the fire from crossing highway 2. It has jumped the road twice and but the fire crews have put our the hot spots. If the fire jumps the road then the camp will be in danger.
Thanks so much for the courageous effort by Pat Titus, Batallion Chief for L.A. County Fire Department and his staff and all the firefighters! They are working overtime to insure the safety of the camp and other structures such as Newcomb's Restaurant.
The topography from Newcombs to Three Points is one that favors a fire that wants to move uphill with three points being ground zero.
Even the Garcia trailhead on Sierra Madre Blvd at fire station 97 in Glendora is taped off. I don't think that a hiker gets into USFS property until he or she is on the ridge.
Mike P wrote:Even the Garcia trailhead on Sierra Madre Blvd at fire station 97 in Glendora is taped off. I don't think that a hiker gets into USFS property until he or she is on the ridge.
The only Actively Burning area was the South East Claw of The Beast
The spot fire at Three Points appears to be out
The Claw has further divided to North and south segments
The North segment seems to burning inside well back from the advancing line, with no spotting ahead of it
The South segment has 3 active areas one making a run on Chileno Cyn, the middle on the West Fork in Lobo Cyn, the furthest west one along and below red-Box Rincon Rd
Bare Mtn spot fires have aged to 24 hrs with no new activity
Mendenhall Peak has aged to 12 hrs with no new activity
DamOTclese wrote:Recall that the Curve Fire was allegedly started by Christians engaged in an animal safrifice rite with Pablo Myobee (sp?) variants, candles left behind as the people fled identified it as accidental.
What? Animal sacrifice isn't part of Christianity. Are you sure it wasn't Santaria (sp?) or something?
Money is one thing, human life is another! 
