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Thanks for the report and pics.

Can we water board morons who spend gas money to drive up there... hike in and spray paint rocks and signs etc. I don't understand the fun in spray painting stuff:

BrownMtnBob wrote: ↑The trail from Dawn up to the Mt Lowe railway (and vice versa) is "closed so the forest can recover" (translation- we want this trail to go away, and if people don't use it for a little while, the forest will re-claim it....so it's off limits).

So in other words --- it is open.

Sean - I happened on one tobacco tin / Scoal. This was well before the switchback / just before a steep short climb where a large rock formation is to your left. No tent either. Looks like Mt Bikers like some of the upper ridge. Noticed what looked to be little jump mounts made. Some "snow"...

Thanks mattmaxon - Is it pretty straightforward to follow?

:?: Question -- Anyone know if this old trail can be safely navigated? Saw this (Burma Road) this listed on the Adam's Pack Station site and read about it in Glen Owens Book. Also saw it listed on the "Canyon Cartography? map of BSA. Although I am pretty familiar with the trails of Chantry this...

Thanks B-Hammer. I figured at some point one would need gear. I will check this area out soon. Helpful to have the pics you provided. I didn't think one would have to watch out for ticks this time of year, but alas ... caught one in my hamstring last week on the Santa Anita Ridge. Thanks for the rem...

Awesome! Thanks for the description. This little side trek is on my list. Could you have gone further or was it the time that made you turn back. I imagine at some point of the canyon one needs special gear?

THis isn't my trip report, but a video report of a friend's recent trip up to Echo. Her trip is pretty unique

http://player.vimeo.com/video/58524977

Great - Thanks Sean for all the info. Map is very helpful! I'll let you all know how it goes.

Thanks for the additional info Sean. Much appreciated. The info about the WC connector option and heads up about the loose area is helpful. You say loose and unstable section - Is this like" loose and unstable if I fall I'm a dead man?" :O Will probably head up early Sunday and do a loop /...

Hike Up --- Awesome. Thanks. Definitely will give this a go!

Thanks for responding Hiker Phil. You can definitely get to Mt Wilson from the ridge. We did it last Nov. Just follow the ridge it will take you to the bench. From there you can continue up to the top of Mt Wilson. That's great Hiker Phil --- any more suggestions / things to look out for? Any idea o...

Figured I'd check out the Goat / Ridge Trail out of Chantry today. I've never been in this area before. The ridge trail is steep but very follow-able. Made my way to the San Olene Fire Road and then the water catch saucer. Explore the area a bit... weird reflector thing (what is that?), communicatio...

Thanks Sean. It was a lot of fun getting to Echo from a new trail. Exciting to not know what was ahead. I'll definitely do this one again. I had to look up "crux" and it's relationship to hiking / climbing. The red rope was appreciated. Was a bit concerned that the "tree" it's at...

Finally got out to explore the Rubio trails up to Echo. Started at Pleasantridge. My original idea was to take the Lower Old Echo Trail then loop back on the Sam Merrill. I spotted that trailhead easily, but went ahead a bit further to see if I could find the Chalet or Incline Trail. The advice give...

"The Forest and the People: the Story of the Angeles National Forest." -W.W. Robinson Quick, dirty history of the ANF and surrounding area. It pops up on Ebay now and then, looks like Amazon has a few used... http://ws-na.assoc-amazon.com/widgets/cm?l=as1&f=ifr&o=1&t=tapatalk0...

I don't know about the abridged version. It's all entirely about the San Gabes, even though titled "Southern Sierra". (The San Gabriels were the Sierra Madre before they were the San Gabriels). I would spring for the original. I think I paid about $80 for my copy. I think I will - the cop...

Thanks for the list! There are quite a few books there that I didn't know about! Here's a good one for you, although it's 100 years out of print. I bought a copy online somewhere, but it was not cheap. I'm glad I have it though. "The Southern Sierras of California" by Charles Francis Saun...

Still available / contacts below still work. She got back to me quick. Happy Trails.... The Angeles Was Our Home Recollections of Life on the Angeles National Forest by Norma Rowley, 2007 238 pages This is a collection of first hand accounts written by Forest Service employees, past and present. It ...

Found what looks like a nice copy of "Southern Sierras" on ebay. Also, the Lukens book seems to be still out there. Great links all. Packer Greg I did some volunteer work for George Geer back in the early 90s. Nice guy who ran circles around me (half his age). Thanks for the info / contact...

Open Library has three e-books about Mt Lowe. http://openlibrary.org/search?q=mount+l ... ltext=true Read only one below. The Story of Mount Lowe by Pacific Electric Railway Company Can you imagine more tourists visited Mt Lowe than Yosemite village? Did you know Prof Lowe invented ice machine? The...

I'll take a look. Side note - Vroman's on Colorado has an interesting section devoted to local history / interest ...

Also --- want to pick up this one about Mt Lowe:

http://ws-na.assoc-amazon.com/widgets/cm?l=as1&f=ifr&o=1&t=tapatalk02-20&asins=0870950754

These are all some great suggestions. I found the Saunder's book at amazon for around $50. Happy to hear that there is more to read... Thanks!

Hi All and Happy New Year! I dig exploring the history and lore of the San Gabriels. I've read and own the following books: -John Robinson - 100 Hikes in the San Gabes Old Mt Wilson Trail History of the San Gabriels (two versions) -Ronald C Woolsey Will Thrall and The San Gabriels -Paul Rippens Henn...

Yep Brown Mt Debis Dam - Nothing new from the patch. Curious... I'll look around a bit...

A fellow trail running buddy of mine called me this morning. He was taking a group up to "the waterfall" as many call it. He was asking for the name of the dam (friend did not know the location name) as a group of mt bikers (kids) just ahead of them said they found a body. I asked him wher...

Thanks for sharing your TR Blog and photos. Great stuff! Really enjoyed the pics of the city from night time above. Happy Trails!

Thanks for both posts. Looking forward to checking out these new routes to Echo and beyond....