Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:53 pm

Crap...I cut and pasted just as it refreshed and the plane is gone.

maxmapper · Post by **maxmapper** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 3:55 pm

Here you go

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:07 pm

HikeUp wrote: ↑Crap...I cut and pasted just as it refreshed and the plane is gone.

https://www.flightradar24.com/34.23,-117.91/12
Monrovia & Crystal Lake

Post by **dima** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:08 pm

Do this: https://www.flightradar24.com to track all the aircraft that are over there (thanks, stonehillnews for the pointer!)

Currently there's a big helicopter (https://www.flightradar24.com/N191CH/2574eed3) and a some sort of airplane making huge laps (https://www.flightradar24.com/AIRATT52/2574aaf3) and another helicopter (https://www.flightradar24.com/N261CG/25750e3f)

They're hovering over the top end of the open section of hwy 39 (i.e. the upper end of the firebreak from Smith Saddle)

Post by **dima** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 4:10 pm

Oh man. There're ALSO a heli and a plane circling around the mountains N of Monrovia. AIRATT52 is going back and forth between the two fronts.

Post by **Sean** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 5:20 pm

I used flightradar.com to follow a helicopter just now. It sucked water up from Crystal Lake and dropped it on the ridge about half a mile south of the 39.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:02 pm

Sunset2 peak cam: http://www.alertwildfire.org/orangecoca ... &v=81e002f

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 6:04 pm

Should say in current image fire is like 5ft from highway 39.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 7:43 pm

Some time around 5pm tonight I watched them drop a line of phos chek (in two passes) on what I think is the ridge south of Clamshell.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:04 pm

Some "Private Plane" is flying over the fire in a systematic way...

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:10 pm

8pm Wednesday and not a breath of wind...still. Santa Ana's out my ass are more severe than this supposed event. Last night and this morning they issued evac orders for Monrovia, Sierra Madre, NE Pasadena and Altadena. Crying wolf doesn't help.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:40 pm

He moved on to Yucaipa...now somewhere else...

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 8:45 pm

And another interested party...I guess those that can't fly drones over the fire, fly their private aircraft over the fire...

Actually this guy is with the Forest Service.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:10 pm

And continuing our story...

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:21 pm

Hmm, that smoke so thick its distorting the terrain and the fire size. Not a steady cam whatsoever right now...x,y,&z changing.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 9:29 pm

HikeUp wrote: ↑And continuing our story...Screenshot_2020-09-09 Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map Flightradar24.png

Could be a contracted pilot? I think this is restricted airspace.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:14 pm

Adding a photo from twitter earlier of the north main fire....taken from Jarvi@Hwy 2.
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Girl Hiker · Post by **Girl Hiker** » Wed Sep 09, 2020 11:59 pm

Skies above the 210/605 fwy this afternoon.

Post by **Sean** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:41 am

HikeUp wrote: ↑Some "Private Plane" is flying over the fire in a systematic way.

Taking FLIR imagery?

davidwiese · Post by **davidwiese** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:03 pm

RIP Mermaids and Triplet Rocks.

Might be easier to get to the Mermaids now with all the brush gone. Triplet on the other hand... some of that brush was essential to use scrambling down some chutes.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:36 pm

Fire final approach to Hwy2/Islip...aka high desert people say 'so thats the bobcat fire'. Fire on Islip ridge from yesterday squashed per FS tweet. Just sayin, cause people get obsessed over red dots or crazy google map for Bobcat. Crystal Lake safe. At least as of this morning. Everything seems to be in order? This basically over tonight?

Post by **dima** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:39 pm

What twitter feeds you're looking at? The red dots are very accessible and easily interpretable, but not entirely correct sometimes.

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:15 pm

dima wrote: ↑What twitter feeds you're looking at? The red dots are very accessible and easily interpretable, but not entirely correct sometimes.

#bobcat fire. They post mappingsupport, google.....heres the google map, supposedly updated hourly.
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.3193729 ... 11hnw__rgj
Waterman, n of cedar springs burnt, east of Hwy 39. High temps on those red or forget about it. 170 or more, preferably 200+.

Post by **dima** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:16 pm

Thanks. That map says it jumped the ACH and burned Buckhorn. Is that what we believe?

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:19 pm

dima wrote: ↑Thanks. That map says it jumped the ACH and burned Buckhorn. Is that what we believe?

Public....they need to come here..we set em straight from their old or unreliable maps ?

Post by **dima** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:21 pm

Hah. Yeah. How dare they. Something definitely IS going on in that area right now. AIRATT52 is flying back and forth in an arc: Twin Peaks, Waterman, Buckhorn, Islip, Windy Gap

maxmapper · Post by **maxmapper** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:00 pm

The google map uses GOES-17 which updates every 10 minutes, but googles derived map updates hourly. It's a geostationary satellite so it can monitor the whole west coast continuously (unlike the other infrared sensors VIIRS, Aqua and Terra on sun synchronous orbits which update once daily for us (around 10:30 for Suomi NPP and Aqua and 1:30 for Terra... if I remember correctly). The issue with GOES-17 is the resolution... it's much lower, see here: https://rammb-slider.cira.colostate.edu ... 48&y=10848

Post by **dima** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:04 pm

Right. caltopo can display the GOES data as well, and the pixels are indeed giant.

Post by **Sean** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:20 pm

dima wrote: ↑The red dots are very accessible and easily interpretable, but not entirely correct sometimes.

Do you mean that the satellite misdetected fire activity?

Post by **Sean** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:38 pm

The DC-10 Air Tanker just unloaded on the crest west of Islip. The fire must be threatening Buckhorn.