PSA: don't be a dufus in the winter

Post by **dima** » Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:23 pm

So we climbed up to San Gorgonio on Sunday. It's a full-on snow-climb situation: ice-axe and crampons non-optional. Approached from South Fork, and the traction devices become required above Dry Lake. It's nice up there; looks like this:

On top is cold with really strong winds. Crossed paths with another group up on top, who came up from the other side. Didn't really talk to them since it was just too windy. They had hiking poles and I didn't see crampons, so I concluded that the other side of the mountain had a lot less snow, and didn't think more of it. Then today somebody sent me this:

https://www.sbsun.com/2018/03/26/san-di ... mountains/

Supposedly somebody fell on the way down from the peak, an hour after we saw them, so I'm pretty sure it's that group. So please PLEASE be prepared when there's snow on the ground.

Post by **Sean** » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:17 am

Also, don't be a dufus in the springtime! Nice pics!

Post by **Sean** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 7:13 am

Your annual reminder to stay safe in the snowy mountains. But if you're gonna be a dufus, please record and upload your fail to YouTube. Thanks.

Post by **dima** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 8:49 am

So what, specifically did he do wrong here? His ice axe should have been in the ground while he was taking his break, right?

Girl Hiker · Post by **Girl Hiker** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:02 am

Beautiful pictures Dima. I am so jealous. I have yet to climb Gorgonio. I definitely won't be doing it in the snow. I am glad you made it down safely.

Post by **Sean** » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:41 pm

dima wrote: So what, specifically did he do wrong here? His ice axe should have been in the ground while he was taking his break, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think you're suppose to stand straight up and try to block the ice with your hand. Perhaps if he had grabbed the ax and hugged the slope instead, he wouldn't have lost his balance. Also, the slope seems steep enough that maybe he should've been partnered up and using ropes. Other than that, I can't think of other safety issues. There is an inherent amount of risk which always exists when you climb like this. But clearly this person was not prepared to deal with one small chunk of icefall.