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Buck Point Loop
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:41 am
by Ze Hiker
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:54 pm
by Taco
Wish I coulda gone! (not)
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:16 pm
by Hikin_Jim
Dude, stay away from that brush unless it's a really worth while hike. Do too much brush and you'll get to the point where you won't do it even on really cool hikes. Like me.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:35 am
by edenooch
From the looks of that pic. Your barely missed running over the bear crap on your departure!........maybe next time
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:06 pm
by RichardK
Am I correct that there is no way to hike from the end of Etiwanda Avenue to 1N34 without plowing through sticker bushes? That is how I am reading these trip reports.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:11 pm
by Ze Hiker
Hikin_Jim wrote:Dude, stay away from that brush unless it's a really worth while hike. Do too much brush and you'll get to the point where you won't do it even on really cool hikes. Like me.
lol very true. i'm mean, i was hiking this and I'm like, all this for
Buck Point?
Prefer to save for mine exploration...
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:11 pm
by Ze Hiker
edenooch wrote:From the looks of that pic. Your barely missed running over the bear crap on your departure!........maybe next time
someone else's steps! i don't step in shit!
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:13 pm
by Ze Hiker
RichardK wrote:Am I correct that there is no way to hike from the end of Etiwanda Avenue to 1N34 without plowing through sticker bushes? That is how I am reading these trip reports.
from the two ridges I checked out - nope.
there is allegedly another way up via Foxbourough road, that may have more potential. I'll not be finding out anytime soon.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:34 pm
by HikeUp
At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?
You didn't go over to San Sevaine Lookout?
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:50 pm
by AW~
Zé wrote:Hikin_Jim wrote:Dude, stay away from that brush unless it's a really worth while hike. Do too much brush and you'll get to the point where you won't do it even on really cool hikes. Like me.
lol very true. i'm mean, i was hiking this and I'm like, all this for
Buck Point?
Prefer to save for mine exploration...
How about some american indian writings/art?
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:14 pm
by Ze Hiker
HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?
You didn't go over to San Sevaine Lookout?
Moi?
Maybe you could, but I didn't want to drive that far. Rather hike
Too lazy to add 2 more miles to what we did and bag Sam Sevaine Lookuot
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:15 pm
by Ze Hiker
AW wrote:
How about some american indian writings/art?
sure. where?
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:53 pm
by AW~
Zé wrote:AW wrote:
How about some american indian writings/art?
sure. where?
http://www.ci.azusa.ca.us/index.aspx?NID=569
"Many of these markings have been noted several hundred feet above the canyon bottom in the vicinity of Rattlesnake Gulch"
Hehehehe..
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Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:13 pm
by HikeUp
Zé wrote:HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?
You didn't go over to San Sevaine Lookout?
Moi?
Maybe you could, but I didn't want to drive that far. Rather hike
Too lazy to add 2 more miles to what we did and bag Sam Sevaine Lookuot
Seriously, did those guys shooting over your bow drive up there or did they bushwhack their way up there? I was thinking of driving up to as close to Buck Point as possible then going up to Etiwanda (if that trail still exists). Any thoughts? I love to off road as much as possible! Would be good to combine off-roading and hiking!
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:17 pm
by Ze Hiker
interesting.
i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:52 pm
by Ze Hiker
HikeUp wrote:
Seriously, did those guys shooting over your bow drive up there or did they bushwhack their way up there? I was thinking of driving up to as close to Buck Point as possible then going up to Etiwanda (if that trail still exists). Any thoughts? I love to off road as much as possible! Would be good to combine off-roading and hiking!
oh yeah they drove up, from the east. didn't know there was a trail up to Etiwanda (up a ridge heading north?). that would be a good combo!
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:53 pm
by Ze Hiker
actually etiwanda ridge is a fire road too. check it out on google maps. try driving up that!
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:56 pm
by AW~
Zé wrote:interesting.
i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?
I doubt it, but could be it....they going to make you work really hard to get there
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:03 pm
by HikeUp
Thanks Zé-man.
Regarding the trail up to Etiwanda, check out this historic HPS
map (pdf file). Nice bunch of older maps on the HPS
site.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:11 pm
by Ze Hiker
AW wrote:Zé wrote:interesting.
i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?
I doubt it, but could be it....they going to make you work really hard to get there
maybe they meant devil's gulch?
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:08 pm
by AW~
Zé wrote:AW wrote:Zé wrote:interesting.
i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?
I doubt it, but could be it....they going to make you work really hard to get there
maybe they meant devil's gulch?
too hard to decipher for me...from the sound of it, I assume they are talking about a south traveling drainage west of Devils Gulch...I wonder how they even found it.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:24 am
by RichardK
HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?
I called the SBNF this morning. 1N34 is closed due to the overall fire danger. There is no specific reopen date.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:49 pm
by HikeUp
RichardK wrote:HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?
I called the SBNF this morning. 1N34 is closed due to the overall fire danger. There is no specific reopen date.
You beat me to it. I was gonna call to confirm it was open (the hunters were able to get through so I assumed it was open last weekend). So now I have one indication it is open and one it is closed. Neither source is reliable.
Typical.
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:09 pm
by Ze Hiker
HikeUp wrote: Neither source is reliable.
what, you don't believe me?!
that gunshot and hikers were real, I will tell you that.
I don't know what road # that is, I thought it was 1N03 or something
besides, NF lie all the time about roads being open/closed. or they just are incompetent. at least that's the case with the ANF, I have no experience with SBNF
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:28 pm
by HikeUp
LOL.
I trust Zé and RichardK. I don't know anything about how the hunters got up there (i.e. whether it was legally or illegally) and I see the Forest as patently unreliable (won't go so far as calling them liars. there is a chance their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing, blah, blah, etc., etc.).
Re: Buck Point Loop
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:34 pm
by edenooch
Zé wrote:edenooch wrote:From the looks of that pic. Your barely missed running over the bear crap on your departure!........maybe next time
someone else's steps! i don't step in shit!
So when we did Tyndalls first 6 miles in the dark. You managed to dodge every landmine?