Buck Point Loop

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:41 am

http://socalhikes.com/2009/09/buck-point-loop/

Post by **Taco** » Sun Sep 20, 2009 2:54 pm

Wish I coulda gone! (not)

Post by **Hikin_Jim** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:16 pm

Zé wrote:http://socalhikes.com/2009/09/buck-point-loop/

Dude, stay away from that brush unless it's a really worth while hike. Do too much brush and you'll get to the point where you won't do it even on really cool hikes. Like me.

edenooch · Post by **edenooch** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:35 am

From the looks of that pic. Your barely missed running over the bear crap on your departure!........maybe next time

RichardK · Post by **RichardK** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:06 pm

Am I correct that there is no way to hike from the end of Etiwanda Avenue to 1N34 without plowing through sticker bushes? That is how I am reading these trip reports.

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:11 pm

Hikin_Jim wrote:
Zé wrote:http://socalhikes.com/2009/09/buck-point-loop/
Dude, stay away from that brush unless it's a really worth while hike. Do too much brush and you'll get to the point where you won't do it even on really cool hikes. Like me.

lol very true. i'm mean, i was hiking this and I'm like, all this for Buck Point?

Prefer to save for mine exploration...

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:11 pm

edenooch wrote:From the looks of that pic. Your barely missed running over the bear crap on your departure!........maybe next time

someone else's steps! i don't step in shit!

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:13 pm

RichardK wrote:Am I correct that there is no way to hike from the end of Etiwanda Avenue to 1N34 without plowing through sticker bushes? That is how I am reading these trip reports.

from the two ridges I checked out - nope.

there is allegedly another way up via Foxbourough road, that may have more potential. I'll not be finding out anytime soon.

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:34 pm

At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?

You didn't go over to San Sevaine Lookout?

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:50 pm

Zé wrote:
Hikin_Jim wrote:
Zé wrote:http://socalhikes.com/2009/09/buck-point-loop/
Dude, stay away from that brush unless it's a really worth while hike. Do too much brush and you'll get to the point where you won't do it even on really cool hikes. Like me.
lol very true. i'm mean, i was hiking this and I'm like, all this for Buck Point?

Prefer to save for mine exploration...

How about some american indian writings/art?

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:14 pm

HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?

You didn't go over to San Sevaine Lookout?

Moi?

Maybe you could, but I didn't want to drive that far. Rather hike

Too lazy to add 2 more miles to what we did and bag Sam Sevaine Lookuot

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:15 pm

AW wrote: How about some american indian writings/art?

sure. where?

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:53 pm

Zé wrote:
AW wrote: How about some american indian writings/art?
sure. where?

http://www.ci.azusa.ca.us/index.aspx?NID=569
"Many of these markings have been noted several hundred feet above the canyon bottom in the vicinity of Rattlesnake Gulch"

Hehehehe..

.

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:13 pm

Zé wrote:
HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?

You didn't go over to San Sevaine Lookout?
Moi?

Maybe you could, but I didn't want to drive that far. Rather hike

Too lazy to add 2 more miles to what we did and bag Sam Sevaine Lookuot

Seriously, did those guys shooting over your bow drive up there or did they bushwhack their way up there? I was thinking of driving up to as close to Buck Point as possible then going up to Etiwanda (if that trail still exists). Any thoughts? I love to off road as much as possible! Would be good to combine off-roading and hiking!

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:17 pm

interesting.

i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:52 pm

HikeUp wrote: Seriously, did those guys shooting over your bow drive up there or did they bushwhack their way up there? I was thinking of driving up to as close to Buck Point as possible then going up to Etiwanda (if that trail still exists). Any thoughts? I love to off road as much as possible! Would be good to combine off-roading and hiking!

oh yeah they drove up, from the east. didn't know there was a trail up to Etiwanda (up a ridge heading north?). that would be a good combo!

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:53 pm

actually etiwanda ridge is a fire road too. check it out on google maps. try driving up that!

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:56 pm

Zé wrote:interesting.

i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?

I doubt it, but could be it....they going to make you work really hard to get there

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:03 pm

Thanks Zé-man.

Regarding the trail up to Etiwanda, check out this historic HPS map (pdf file). Nice bunch of older maps on the HPS site.

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:11 pm

AW wrote:
Zé wrote:interesting.

i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?
I doubt it, but could be it....they going to make you work really hard to get there

maybe they meant devil's gulch?

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:08 pm

Zé wrote:
AW wrote:
Zé wrote:interesting.

i'm assuming rattlesnake gulch is the same as rattlesnake canyon?
I doubt it, but could be it....they going to make you work really hard to get there
maybe they meant devil's gulch?

too hard to decipher for me...from the sound of it, I assume they are talking about a south traveling drainage west of Devils Gulch...I wonder how they even found it.

RichardK · Post by **RichardK** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:24 am

HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?

I called the SBNF this morning. 1N34 is closed due to the overall fire danger. There is no specific reopen date.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:49 pm

RichardK wrote:
HikeUp wrote:At this time of year can't you just drive up 1N34 from Lytle Creek Road?
I called the SBNF this morning. 1N34 is closed due to the overall fire danger. There is no specific reopen date.

You beat me to it. I was gonna call to confirm it was open (the hunters were able to get through so I assumed it was open last weekend). So now I have one indication it is open and one it is closed. Neither source is reliable.

Typical.

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:09 pm

HikeUp wrote: Neither source is reliable.

what, you don't believe me?!

that gunshot and hikers were real, I will tell you that.

I don't know what road # that is, I thought it was 1N03 or something

besides, NF lie all the time about roads being open/closed. or they just are incompetent. at least that's the case with the ANF, I have no experience with SBNF

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:28 pm

LOL.

I trust Zé and RichardK. I don't know anything about how the hunters got up there (i.e. whether it was legally or illegally) and I see the Forest as patently unreliable (won't go so far as calling them liars. there is a chance their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing, blah, blah, etc., etc.).

edenooch · Post by **edenooch** » Wed Sep 23, 2009 1:34 pm

Zé wrote:
edenooch wrote:From the looks of that pic. Your barely missed running over the bear crap on your departure!........maybe next time
someone else's steps! i don't step in shit!

So when we did Tyndalls first 6 miles in the dark. You managed to dodge every landmine?