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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 7:37 am
by mattmaxon
cougarmagic wrote:Holy Hell.

One news report this morning said there is now a forest-wide closure. Haven't been able to confirm that, though.
There is a closure order for San Gabriel Canyon going into effect today

http://www.inciweb.org/incident/article/9302/

Like I said the media are morons, shut off the sound, hopefully they'll show something useful

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:06 am
by edenooch
damn!!

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:31 am
by Hikin_Jim
I see that it says that the San Gab Cnyn area is closed, but I don't see anything about the forest in general. Alternate link?

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:38 am
by HikeUp
A walk out on Brown Mtn. Road would be interesting right about now!

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:43 am
by AW~
Hikin_Jim wrote:I see that it says that the San Gab Cnyn area is closed, but I don't see anything about the forest in general. Alternate link?
ANF website :D , I dont know but think its a good idea until they can get some of the recent stuff out. One more fire around here and I might not be able to breathe! muchless see anything.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:46 am
by Hikin_Jim
Fire Map from LA Times
It says no structures under immediate threat (as of about 6 this morning). My mom lives in Briggs Terrace. :shock:


The live video feed from Fox is mostly covering the Station Fire right now.


Today's statewide map:
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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:50 am
by cougarmagic
No of course not, those guys were being 'careful' obviously.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:59 am
by Mike P
A-Mazing:
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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:13 pm
by Hikin_Jim
TacoDelRio wrote:I've seen him rappel with TWO chainsaws... into a pool full of molten-steel sharks.
Ha! Those chainsaws were electric, so those sharks are history. Of course what does that say about Matt? ALIEN! :shock:

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:16 pm
by cougarmagic
Los Angeles, CA:

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Mordor, Middle Earth:

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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:20 pm
by edenooch
so was this arson? or did taco delrios pot farm blow up again

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:33 pm
by HikeUp
HikeUp wrote:A walk out on Brown Mtn. Road would be interesting right about now!
Well, maybe not such a good idea considering it's ON FIRE!!!

Pics from about noon on Friday 2009-08-28.

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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:47 pm
by Hikin_Jim
DamOTclese wrote:That point where Morris started supposedly had fire ban signs posted every 30 feet in English and Spanish. The unconfirmed-as-yet rumor is that 2 people fishing started the fire to cook, the signs didn't apply to them.
If true, I hope they throw the book at them -- and charge them for the fire fighting expense.

I'm not at all sure that fining that Boy Scout thousands of dollars was the right thing to do, but if these two fishermen started that fire, then I have NO doubt that a fine would be the right thing to do.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:48 pm
by Hikin_Jim

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:46 pm
by AlanK
Here are some pictures, mostly from the San Rafael Hills near Flintridge Sacred Heart School around 4 PM. (There are a couple from in front of my house this morning.)

In this picture, the 210 Freeway, La Canada HS, and JPL are in the foreground.

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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:48 pm
by AlanK
The map of the burn area on the Star News Web site is greatly exaggerated. I went up Ocean View a ways and the fire is nowhere near that far west on the south slopes. This map is more accurate.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:30 pm
by mattmaxon
This is some of the latest Modis data.....

Not good, any way you cut it

We'll have to wait for the smoke to clear to count our losses, some gains maybe as PO and pot farms will be trashed for a few years... Little solace

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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 6:02 pm
by mattmaxon

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:49 pm
by cougarmagic
The Arroyo, Brown Mtn, Switzer, Bear Canyon, possibly Millard...my heart is broken.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 10:56 pm
by Hikin_Jim
cougarmagic wrote:The Arroyo, Brown Mtn, Switzer, Bear Canyon, possibly Millard...my heart is broken.
Eww. Let's hope the canyon bottom trees survive. Millard too, hunh? It's gotten that far east? Dang. :(

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:04 am
by Sewellymon
as of 10PM, not into Millard yet. Much of the Brown Mt Fire Road towards the Ken Burton trail, yes. Who knows what tomorrow brings, tho...

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:50 am
by Taco
Cool sequence.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 4:42 am
by mattmaxon
I checked with friends who have a house in Big Tujunga in La Paloma Flat
Jane wrote:"The fire hasn't reached the pines in GF yet, but it is also in Silver and S on the Side (maybe down to 2600ft).

The sheriff came by to warn about potential evacuations, but believes it won't happen unless we get unforeseen wind."

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:23 am
by mattmaxon
This GE image shows the areas of Active burning detected on the pass overs at 5:50 GMT and 10:14 GMT (10pm 8/28 & 3am 8/29 local)

Seems strange the fire has retreated to it's "core" (mostly) with an extension toward Colby Cyn and upper Arroyo Seco toward Red Box

I'm not sure where others are seeing information on Millard Cyn being affected but I see no evidence it has gotten in there

But OTOH I have first hand reports the fire is in Silver Cyn too so who knows...confusion reigns! :evil:

Is it threatened..you bet... Will it get there who knows... this fire is crazy.... extreme behavior for sure, I hate to think what it'd be like with some Santa Ana's

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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:45 am
by mattmaxon
I noticed a perimeter map on the Inciweb info page

I have it out for carbon dating as they have no date or time on it, but it looks like the fire I saw on Thursday Morning 8/26

I extracted this relevant info and viola!

Obviously it has gotten much much bigger with a 5000 acre value

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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:55 am
by cougarmagic
mattmaxon wrote:
I'm not sure where others are seeing information on Millard Cyn being affected but I see no evidence it has gotten in there
No direct evidence, just with how much it spread yesterday (1 day!) and how close it is, and no effort to contain the "back end" of the fire (just save the expensive houses....). Pessimistically inevitable....

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:05 am
by Mike P
J- Was your camera in the path of this fire????

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:39 am
by cougarmagic
Mike P wrote:J- Was your camera in the path of this fire????
Two cameras...

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Can you offer any encouragement on how larger animals deal with fire? I'm much more worried about that than my gear. I've read the lions can easily move out of the area, but then they have to deal with being in another's territory, plus loss of food & water. And the smoke is bad enough here - I hope they find some sheltered areas.

Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:01 pm
by HikeUp
Unreal how big this thing has gotten.

I've added more pics from today to flickr.

Friday at 12 noon...
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Saturday at 11:14a...
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Saturday at 11:14am
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Saturday at 12:41pm
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Re: The Station Fire Thread

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 2:41 pm
by mattmaxon
My friends who live at la paloma flat where evacuated with flames within ΒΌ mile

I drove from Big-T Rd to La Cresenta (Ocean View Blvd)

Fire down into Hall-Beckley Canyon to at least 2900ft level

Probably lower from what I could see, but to there for sure

The south Side of Mt Lukens has fire in the Head of Haines Canyon

The North face of Mt Lukens from Grizzly Flat to probably Delta Cyn is in flames

The fire has jumped Big-T rd @ Stony Vale and is making a run for Condor Peak

Mandatory evacuations for Colby Ranch area too....