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Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:30 am
by Hikin_Jim
Pleasant View Ridge? Crap. I know Gleason's toast, but how bad has Pacifico taken the hit?
Flames E of Wilson? Santa Anita Canyon?
I can't get the tower cam on Wilson to respond any more. Hopefully that just means that the power is out.
Frick. The N side of Wilson was so beautiful.
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:34 am
by Mike P
HJ, no flames on Wilson yet...
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:34 am
by EnFuego
This was taken off one of the Sierra Clubs section:
"During the night the fire extended eastward and has encircled Mt.
Vetter and the Chrarlton-Chilao area.
The maps show it burning in Devil's Canyon, on Mt. Mooney, and threatening Newcomb's Ranch. It has also expanded into the upper West Fork, burning on the north side virtually all the way down to Cogswell Reservoir. One lobe appears to be making a run for Mt. Wilson from
the north via the next canyon to the west of Strayne's Canyon.
Another lobe is now burning the south side of Mt. Wilson near the summit.
Further south, most of Millard Canyon has been engulfed right up to and including Inspiration Point, however the fire has not worked downslope to Castle Canyon and Echo Mountain, nor is it on the slopes of Muir Peak yet.
Northward, most if not all of the Roundtop ridge is toast, including Granite Mtn and Roundtop, as is Pacifico. The Mt. Hillyer-Sulphur Springs area has not burned.
Major threats today include upper Devil's Canyon and thence into the Waterman-Twin Peaks area, Vetter Mtn and the Chilao country, Mt.
Wilson, Muir Peak, and the upper part of Eaton Canyon down to Camp Idlehour. A northern branch of the fire could crest over Bare Mountain and thence run further eastward onto Winston Ridge.
If the fire continues unabated for a few more days, it could well burn all the high country east to Cajon Pass. We'll just have to keep our fingers crossed and hope that the fire can be tamped down when it reaches the high country above the chaparral belt.
Pray for rain from Hurricane Jimena down in Baja California."
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:35 am
by Hikin_Jim
CORRECTION: The tower cam is up and running -- and all of the towers to the W are still standing. Let us hope that it remains so.
Quite a lot of flames here in Tujunga last night. The "call in the night" never came, thank God.
I've read that some homes were lost in La Crescenta. Anyone know where (or if this report is even accurate)?
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:11 am
by Mike P
DamOTclese wrote:Has East Fork along the San Gabriel River burned?
No, not even close, thankfully.
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:29 am
by mattmaxon
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:30 am
by mattmaxon
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:31 am
by mattmaxon
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:34 am
by mattmaxon
Hikin_Jim wrote:I've read that some
homes were lost in La Crescenta. Anyone know where (or if this report is even accurate)?
I have been hearing this too but I've not seen any
solid information
I took a bit of video on the way to work early this AM
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:50 am
by mattmaxon
When a new active perimeter is release I'll try to update this map
The GEOMAC site is
sloooooow
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en&ie ... 93cbaa8ae4
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:18 am
by mattmaxon
Rick Kent wrote:Hey Matt, do you have a new KML file put together yet?
Yeah Baby!
http://pctmap.homeip.net/data2/Fire%20P ... 200901.kml
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:16 pm
by AW~
If you be curious, follow along with CBS
http://www.ustream.tv/embed/522594?html5ui
Fire looked close to MtWilson, but not there yet...
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:36 pm
by Rick Kent
Even better shots of Mount Wilson on CNN live:
http://www.findinternettv.com/Sites/1518/CNN-Live.aspx
Fire is REAL close to the telescopes and structures. It's all the way up to the parking area. Looks like it might be sticking low to the ground. No big flames are visible but a lot of smoke from under the trees.
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:53 pm
by Hikin_Jim
Crap, looks like that nice Oak Grove in Haines Canyon about 2/3 of the way up the road before it turns out of the canyon is within the fire perimeter. Hope they didn't all get wiped out. Same with some of the nice oaks and sycamores up by the spring.
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:04 pm
by mattmaxon
Hikin_Jim wrote:Crap, looks like that nice Oak Grove in Haines Canyon about 2/3 of the way up the road before it turns out of the canyon is within the fire perimeter. Hope they didn't all get wiped out. Same with some of the nice oaks and sycamores up by the spring.
Yeah don't count up your losses until you can see'em
Those oaks at least are very resilient, the fires in SD a few years back went through places and it looked like they where done for, most survived.
The Sycamore's not so much
one "good" thing to come out of this is the destruction of the poison oak!
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:15 pm
by Hikin_Jim
mattmaxon wrote:one "good" thing to come out of this is the destruction of the poison oak!
LOL. Amen.
Hey, when I zoom in, the perimeter disappears. What gives? Probably just a problem with my settings.
There's a KTLA feed that is showing the top of the mountain (Mt. Wilson) is starting to burn. It's burning near the 100" Hooker Telescope.
KTLA General News
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-t ... livestream
KTLA streaming via CNN just Mt. Wilson:
http://edition.cnn.com/video/flashLive/ ... am=stream1
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:25 pm
by AW~
Firefighters gain on blaze near Los Angeles
Thats the title of the associated press news coverage...who is feeding these news teams their coverage?
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:28 pm
by mattmaxon
Wonder how long it will take to grow back?
Hikin_Jim wrote:
Hey, when I zoom in, the perimeter disappears. What gives? Probably just a problem with my settings.
Hummm..
dunna know
I made the Opacity about 30-something % so it may just be hard to see.
under the Map 0901 folder the Active perimeter, rt-clk on the Style and Color tab
You can change the color and opacity values here
Make sure the Altitude is clamped to the ground
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:50 pm
by mattmaxon
Another pass of the satellite shows some possible hopeful signs on the South East Claw
The latest and "Greatest" ? KML
http://pctmap.homeip.net/data2/Fire%20P ... %20PDT.kml
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:51 pm
by dgrimreaper
From the Mt. Wilson Towercam:
Note: the large amount of new smoke seen is due to backfires set by firefighters. This is the very best thing to do at the moment. Go California firefighters!
For recent fire updates, click here
I guess that is the best thing for now under the circumstances. Cross your fingers.
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:44 pm
by mattmaxon
Yeah I'm nuts I went for a hike in the smoke on sunday
Here is a video showing the Smoke
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:11 pm
by mattmaxon
Short video I took on the way to work this AM
This is on the freeway La Tuna Cyn Rd and Honolulu east bound
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:23 pm
by mattmaxon
DamOTclese wrote:Your enemy is poison oak? Oh man, I LOVE that stuff!
Nurse! Nurse! get this man some
help!
Yeah Yeah, I gonna have the 1st annual Poison Oak eating contest this year
It will coincide with the Stinging Nettle eating contest (friggin pussies)
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:47 pm
by edenooch
was @ in in out off the 2. no smoke or flames. is the fire contained?
poison oak? nettle?
Lets have the walking through yucca contest to see who has some real cajones!
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:54 pm
by mattmaxon
edenooch wrote:was @ in in out off the 2. no smoke or flames. is the fire contained?
poison oak? nettle?
Lets have the walking through yucca contest to see who has some real cajones!
Bah! Buckthorn Now that's a real bummer
I'd rather walk though a mile of Yuccas than 1/10 mile of Buckthorn
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:08 pm
by AW~
wicked:
bad luck:
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:09 pm
by mattmaxon
Norion just announced the south portion of the angeles is closed
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:20 pm
by Hikin_Jim
mattmaxon wrote:Norion just announced the south portion of the angeles is closed
Norion?
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:24 pm
by edenooch
hasnt it been closed?
Re: The Station Fire Thread
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:25 pm
by Hikin_Jim
So, I guess, I'm trying to tally up trails that may be affect
Here's what I've come up with:
Trail Canyon
Long stretches of the PCT, possibly all the way from around Sulphur Springs to Hwy 14.
Pacoima Canyon
Condor Peak Trail
Gold Creek Trail, might be another one around here that I'm missing, Mendenhall Ridge? Magic Mountain?
Fall Creek Trail
Grizzly Flats Trail, probably both trails (from Hwy 2 and from Big T)
Stone Canyon
Placerita Canyon, Oak of the Golden Dream -- there's a couple over there; haven't been over there for a while.
Deukmejian Wilderness Park (multiple trails)
Rim of the Valley Trail (kind of part of Deukmijian Wilderness Park
Sister Elsie Trail
Sam Merrill Trail
Castle Canyon Trail
Dawn Mine Trail
Sunset Ridge Trail
Dawn Mine to Mt. Lowe Railway (the upper connector)
Dawn Mine to Sunset Ridge Trail (the lower connector)
Tom Sloane Trail
Parallel trail to Tom Sloane trail (on the other side of the ridge.
Around 50% of the Gabrieleno National Recreation Trail.
Switzer Falls Trail (to the base of the falls from Gabrieleno, or is that just the Bear Canyon Trail?)
The mount Lowe "8."
San Gabriel Peak Trail
Mount Disappointment Trail
Bear Canyon Trail
Mt. Wilson Trail, upper section.
Rim Trail.
Possibly Mt. Zion Trail
Sturdevant trail, upper section.
Possibly Winter Creek Trail -- section to Mt. Wilson Trail.
Mt. Wilson Toll Road, the portion used as part of the Mt. Wilson Trail
Valley Forge Trail
Kenyon Devore Trail (formerly Rattlesnake Trail)
Idlehour Trail
Gould Mesa Trail?
Ken Burton Trail
Any "unofficial" trails in the Arroyo Seco
Agua Prieto Trail
Possibly Vetter Mountain Trail
Silver Moccasin Trail (from West Fork to Charlton/Chilao)
Possibly Devils Canyon Trail
Both Trails to Mt. Hillyer
Strawberry Peak Trail
Barley Flats Trail
The Clear Creek Jct to Switzer's Trail
Colby Canyon Trail
North Strawberry Peak Trail (From Colby Ranch)
That's just off the top of my head. What am I missing?
HJ