Angeles Crest Highway (CA-2)

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:26 pm

No info on the ANF site or the CalTrans site. Hmm.

Just to help clarify where this is...I don't think you were at Cloudbusrt (but I could be mistaken). Cloudburst is about 1 mile before Buckhorn and the PCT does cross there, but there is not a huge parking lot. The huge parking lot (on the south side of the rode) is about 4 miles before Buckhorn and a little more than a mile past Three Points. The PCT does cross at the huge parking lot, and there is a gate across the road at the east end of the lot. So it looks like you could get as far as 1 mile or so past 3 points.

Can you say Twin Peaks?

cougarmagic · Post by **cougarmagic** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:14 pm

Yes, HikeUp has it right. That's the place. Well, I'm going to have to go up there tomorrow and find out the hard way. I have a trail cam up there, hoping to see some bighorn sheep. Tomorrow is my last day off for a while, and I am not a patient person...!

So I'll let you know if it's open again.

Dudley Heinsbergen · Post by **Dudley Heinsbergen** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:49 pm

this happens the day i plan a trip up to there!

!!!

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:51 pm

There is a post dated 9/3/08 on the wrightwood forums for Hwy2...

"FYI
There's CalTrans gate between Kratka, now Snowcrest, and Vista, now closed, at mile marker 60.23, one just past Cedar Springs at mm 61.45, the one at Islip at 64.10 and none until Vincent Gap at mm 74.80"

Not exactly sure if "Vista" is closed or the road is closed..and didnt say why whatever is closed is closed either.

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:02 pm

More info - the closed gate cougar is referring to is at mile marker 54.02 about 6 miles west of Kratka-Vista gate (mm 60.23).

210 freeway is mile marker 24.54.

Tom Chester's ACH page.

FIGHT ON · Post by **FIGHT ON** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 7:14 pm

AW wrote:There is a post dated 9/3/08 on the wrightwood forums for Hwy2...

"FYI
There's CalTrans gate between Kratka, now Snowcrest, and Vista, now closed, at mile marker 60.23, one just past Cedar Springs at mm 61.45, the one at Islip at 64.10 and none until Vincent Gap at mm 74.80"

Not exactly sure if "Vista" is closed or the road is closed..and didnt say why whatever is closed is closed either.

Map.
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.35187,-11 ... tains%20CA

PHOTOS OF MILEAGE MARKERS

A. East road from Buckhorn. (There's another marker on the other side of the road 59.00 which is exactly at the Buckhorn Road.)

B. Eagles Roost.

C. Mt. Williamson Trail Parking Lot.

JMunaretto · Post by **JMunaretto** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:07 pm

HikeUp wrote:More info - the closed gate cougar is referring to is at mile marker 54.02 about 6 miles west of Kratka-Vista gate (mm 60.23).

210 freeway is mile marker 24.54.

Tom Chester's ACH page.

Are you estimating based the description above or you heard from other sources?

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:12 pm

JMunaretto wrote:
HikeUp wrote:More info - the closed gate cougar is referring to is at mile marker 54.02 about 6 miles west of Kratka-Vista gate (mm 60.23).

210 freeway is mile marker 24.54.

Tom Chester's ACH page.
Are you estimating based the description above or you heard from other sources?

Yes, estimating based on her description and the fact that she agreed with my earlier comments. Mile marker 54.02, just east of Three Points by about a mile. I know there is a gate there...she indicated she'll give an update tomorrow. Hope this is clear! Just trying to let everyone know how far they can get if the gate is still closed

AW~ · Post by **AW~** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:32 pm

Thanks for the info...hopefully next time, I hop onto the correct trail to Twin Peaks

Sux that the road is closed..big time....I wonder what the deal is.

cougarmagic · Post by **cougarmagic** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:11 pm

I'll take a photo of the gate & parking area, so you can all share in the frustration.

cougarmagic · Post by **cougarmagic** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:22 pm

Sorry, I didn't make it up there today. I tried calling a few ranger stations again this morning, but couldn't get any information. I didn't have the heart to spew greenhouse gases all day just to see the closed gate again. THe best guess is that CalTrans is working on the road. It didn't seem like a small thing - like, if there was a small rockslide, they might put up smaller barricades while they clear it, but this gate was CLOSED.

So I'd suggest anyone heading up this weekend have a Plan B hike in mind...

JMunaretto · Post by **JMunaretto** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 4:33 pm

NOOOOOOOOOOO!

I was gonna do Waterman and Twin Peaks from Buckhorn. i guess I could still go from three points, maybe just to Twin Peaks and back

FIGHT ON · Post by **FIGHT ON** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:00 pm

JMunaretto wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOO!

I was gonna do Waterman and Twin Peaks from Buckhorn. i guess I could still go from three points, maybe just to Twin Peaks and back

You gonna miss the game! If you ain't down there by 12 noon you never gonna get in!

JMunaretto · Post by **JMunaretto** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:20 pm

Gonna watch it - on the tv. After hiking

JMunaretto · Post by **JMunaretto** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:22 pm

Seriously, what's a decent plan B? My girlfriend is demanding elevation gain. Starting from Three Points is just gonna be too low of a gain/mile, and would take too many miles to get some decent elevation. I'm not sure what else around there (that isn't after this road closure) that could work. Eitherwise I would have to not chance it at all and go hike Ontario or something

FIGHT ON · Post by **FIGHT ON** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:34 pm

JMunaretto wrote:Seriously, what's a decent plan B? My girlfriend is demanding elevation gain. Starting from Three Points is just gonna be too low of a gain/mile, and would take too many miles to get some decent elevation. I'm not sure what else around there (that isn't after this road closure) that could work. Eitherwise I would have to not chance it at all and go hike Ontario or something

What ya do is start at 3 points and do a loop going up to Cloud Burst Summit and then over to the trail that goes up to Mt Waterman and then either go up to Twin Peaks or just go back to 3 points. And I bet that road will be open by Saturday anyway. JUST GO! ( Hey J. How long can you balance on one foot with your eyes closed?)

FIGHT ON · Post by **FIGHT ON** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:37 pm

Hey wait a minute. Go do Skyline! She wanted elevation gain right? Well?

I bet Perry would go out of his way to show you up. Maybe ask him.

Post by **HikeUp** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:38 pm

If you're looking for 750'/mile or more, then you're fucked if that gate stops you. Unless you want to go cross country, then you could head up the west ridge of Waterman from Three Points instead of taking the trail to the Waterman-Twin peaks Saddle. Taking the PCT from the potentially closed gate won't get you much gain per mile, but you can do a lot of distance...say, hit Pallett and Will Thrall ...that'd be a hell of a long distance roller coaster. Get a map!!!!!!

Dudley Heinsbergen · Post by **Dudley Heinsbergen** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:13 pm

this ruins my weekend....

Post by **HikeUp** » Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:15 pm

Dudley Heinsbergen wrote:this ruins my weekend....

Screw that shit...PLAN B! Always have an out!

FIGHT ON · Post by **FIGHT ON** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:50 am

OMG...

SOMBODY SAID THE "F" WORD!!!!

this is serious!

AlanK · Post by **AlanK** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:14 am

FIGHT ON wrote:OMG... SOMBODY SAID THE "F" WORD!!!! this is serious!

FIGHT?

Post by **HikeUp** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:23 am

*snort*

JMunaretto · Post by **JMunaretto** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 9:46 am

Yeah I got a map or two! Yeah I know there's no big gain trails around there that are well known, just thinking maybe something creative could be conjured up.

I am mad! And if I call the ranger station, I know I'll just be more pissed with their incompetence. Last time they told me Heaton Flats was flooded

JMunaretto · Post by **JMunaretto** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:59 am

Called the ranger station and they said that normally any closure during the week should be open for the weekend. I hope that's true...

Post by **HikeUp** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:26 pm

Cool. Thanks Joe. Have fun and post a TR if you can.

Post by **Taco** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:12 pm

DUDE, call them and tell them something is flooded! Tell them the summit of Ontario is flooded or something.

"Oh shit really?!?!? Oh crap... we'll be right on it!"

FIGHT ON · Post by **FIGHT ON** » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:00 pm

AlanK wrote:
FIGHT ON wrote:OMG... SOMBODY SAID THE "F" WORD!!!! this is serious!
FIGHT?

No Alan, I didn't say it. I don't say those words. I don't wanna name names but
it was said in this post...PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:38 pm

kgw · Post by **kgw** » Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:22 pm

How far east from La Canada-Flintridge can you go?

I've been to Buckhorn recently, but how far past Buckhorn can you get?

Post by **Hikin_Jim** » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:56 pm

So, this is re-opened now, yes?