Getting a round in at an abandoned golf course

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Grown accustomed to a certain level of energy and chaos of having a 6 year old bouncing around every day, having the wife and kid away at the grandparents for a second weekend in a row I'll admit I'm starting to get a little stir-crazy. Wandering around outside before the heat gets to be too much has been the outlet.

This morning I decided to check out a couple bits that had caught my interest on satellite imagery in the lowest reaches of sand canyon, right before it terminates into the Santa Clara river. I've done 12 or so different adventures around Sand Canyon since 2021, and these were the final two.

First up was the Fair Oaks Trail, as it is called on Alltrails. What once was a rancher's road, then became a hiking trail, has now evolved into a neighborhood trail for morning dog walks as housing developments have proliferated on either side. These are the front lines of Los Angeles sprawl.

The only access point I could find that wasn't from a gated development was from Rolling Hills Ave. It dated back to the ranching days, and was completely overgrown. You can just see a chain across what once was a gravel road.
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Up a little oak-studded canyon I came upon the proper trail, with bike tracks and the like.
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At the high point is a bench and nice view of the Santa Clara valley.
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Nice views across the valley at the Los Padres. Here you can see Baldy and Modelo Peaks, which had caught my eye recently on a visit to lake Piru. After doing some research, I believe there is real potential for an Eispiraten expedition here at some point in the future.... :)
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And the latest housing development, under construction. Can I just complain for a second about obnoxious no trespassing signs? I think it's a buzz killer to threaten people with violence and murder like this. If it's no trespassing just tell us it's no trespassing - I don't need the menacing scare tactics. I'm trying to have a peaceful hike on a trail I'm entirely allowed to be on, not needlessly feel like my life and my family's life is suddenly at risk from you and your gun. It sure isn't neighborly. AAAAAANNNNNYways.....
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Next up I wanted to investigate what aerial imagery suggested was some kind of abandoned golf course a shimy further down the canyon. I was a little hesitant to dive in there, but there weren't any no trespassing signs, even polite ones, so I figured I'd give it a go.

I followed a concrete golf cart path that must have been massively expensive to construct. Its in great condition except is rapidly being overgrown by a variety of cali chaparral brush.

The fairways and greens are completely replaced by wildflowers and brush - you would never have known they were ever anything different.
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You can tell where the water hazards were because those are now thick with 10-foot tall reeds, here completely blocking the cart path.
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Wildflowers overtake either side of the concrete.
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I decided to summit a little hill on the north side of the golf course that was made up of the miocene Mint Canyon formation. It was rugged and required a bit of class 2 scrambling. First class 2 scrambling I've done on a golf course.
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View south from the top where you can see the overgrown cart paths and beyond that still-active golf course where the Sand Canyon Country Club maintains the artificial environment. I might argue even in golden-brown summer the unmaintained golf course looks prettier than the maintained one.
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The California sage made for a particularly ethereal golfing experience. Much more so than manicured turf.
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At least the bathrooms are still in great condition. Though I didn't try to use them. Obviously a WHOLE lot of money went into this place. I wonder why it was all closed down? It's not like the neighborhood is struggling. To the contrary, it is experiencing much growth.
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Spoke briefly with the homeowner in an adjacent property who told me the golf course has been shut down for only 4-5 years. Amazing how fast the California chaparral ecosystem reclaims what is rightfully its own.

Fair Oaks trail: 1.78 miles, 458 ft of gain
Abandoned Golf Course: 1.04 miles, 234 ft of gain
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FYI, there's also an abandoned (AFAIK) course near the CA aqueduct in Sylmar. I don't play/like/respect golf, but it's fairly depressing nonetheless.
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Nate, I love your brain telling you that this would be a fun adventure. I would never think to explore the golf course but if you told me about the idea, I'd definitely be interested!
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GoalHiking wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2026 9:01 pm FYI, there's also an abandoned (AFAIK) course near the CA aqueduct in Sylmar. I don't play/like/respect golf, but it's fairly depressing nonetheless.
An abandoned golf course is far less depressing than an operating one! I came away rather heartened at how fast nature claimed it all back in just a few years.
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Thanks for the report and pictures. Class 2 scrambling should be required at all golf courses. I mean, what sort of pansy-ass sport is this?!
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Why do people hate golf courses? Listening to George Carlin too much?
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HikeUp wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:46 am Why do people hate golf courses? Listening to George Carlin too much?
If you are a fan and have HBO Max, watch this documentary! I was the music editor. That bit is even featured in part 2 (part 2 is when Carlin entered his ranting phase)

https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/georg ... ican_dream

I cut most of this show in the laundry room of my parents house in ogden in between scrambling trips...
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HikeUp wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:46 am Why do people hate golf courses? Listening to George Carlin too much?
https://www.greenmatters.com/p/golf-cou ... tal-impact
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I know a housing development in Sierra Madre about which the locals are saying the same thing.
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HikeUp wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:46 am Why do people hate golf courses? Listening to George Carlin too much?
I only occasionally see people who can't use real bikes riding on eBikes, most of the time they're young and fit enough that they could and should be on a real bike.

Likewise, it's disgraceful to see young and fit people using a golf cart or walking behind a self-driving bag of clubs. That's not a sport.

The fees associated also make it difficult for Regular People to take part. I'm thinking of The People, man.

That said, some sort of multi-modal outing would be interesting: using a golf cart to approach a biking route and using that to approach a hiking route or similar.
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GoalHiking wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2026 1:52 pm
HikeUp wrote: Tue Jul 28, 2026 8:46 am Why do people hate golf courses? Listening to George Carlin too much?
That said, some sort of multi-modal outing would be interesting: using a golf cart to approach a biking route and using that to approach a hiking route or similar.
Once at the top of the mountain, you can hit a golf ball over the edge. I knew Mike Stanley professionally (EMRTC), but he never convinced me to try this...

https://golf.com/travel/socorro-peak-cr ... 42rMuRPHyM
If you can get past the mountain lions, black gnats and rattlesnakes, if you can ignore the cacti, mesquite and creosote bushes, if you can get over the idea that you may fall into an old mine shaft, canyon or completely off its side, and if you can make peace with the fact that it’s a testing ground for ballistics, explosives and warheads, then playing in the Elfego Baca Shootout on Socorro Peak in New Mexico might be right for you.

Okay, so it’s not that bad, though everything mentioned is a part of the journey. But the Elfego Baca Shootout, an event held nearly every year at the top of the 7,284-foot mountain that looks over the course at New Mexico Tech, is not for the faint of heart. This is golf — with an adventurous side.

The tournament, which is usually run alongside the Socorro Open, a pro-am in which future pros like Rich Beem and Lee Trevino have participated in, has been around since 1960. The rules are simple: for $125 you get 10 balls and three spotters to reach a chalked out circle, 50 feet in diameter, on the desert floor. The course itself is three miles long. You start at the top of the mountain and work your way down, hoping to find your ball along the way. As long as you finish with at least one ball, you’ve successfully completed the shootout.

“I still haven’t figured out why I kept doing it,” says Mike Stanley with a laugh. If there was ever an Elfgeo Baca standout, it’s Stanley. He grew up caddying at the Open, and also worked as a spotter for his dad in the Baca. He’s won the shootout a ridiculous 18 times, and holds the record with a score of nine strokes. (The average is between 18 and 21.) His innovation was to use a driver, as opposed to ratty old clubs, like many competitors used to do. Because of the elevation, the ball really travels. “When you hit the ball, it goes out of sight,” he says. “That’s a really neat feeling, to hit it 600 yards.”

You have to make your own tee — Stanley uses a piece of carpet, some use a broom head — but otherwise it’s pretty much golf. (You know, minus the mountain lions and rattlesnakes and cacti. There’s a reason Stanley brings a lot of tweezers.) And though he hasn’t played the shootout in 10 years, he looks back on it with fond memories. “It’s an adventure,” he says, “but it’s just a lot of fun.”

The shootout is aptly named, in honor of Elfego Baca. In 1884, Baca, then the 19-year-old sheriff of Socorro — it’s now a town of 8,500 people about 75 miles south of Albuquerque — took down a mob single-handedly. He outwaited them as they fired some 4,000 rounds, hiding out in an adobe home for 33 hours. It’s known today as the Frisco Shootout. He later became a U.S. Marshal, and was one of the first Hispanic pop culture heroes in U.S. history, part of a Disney miniseries, comic book and movie in the 1950s. (There’s also the legend that says he stole a pistol from Pancho Villa and Villa responded by putting a $30,000 bounty on Baca’s head.)

The mountain is off limits to the public most of the year. As home to the New Mexico Tech Energetic Materials and Research Center — which tests explosives and other detonable materials for governments and corporations — it’s not something you can just wander on to. (It’s also where Stanley works. He’s the director of the EMRC.) For the tournament, though, they make an exception. Only six competitors are allowed at a time. You have to be driven up by a four-wheel vehicle, which takes about an hour, and then it’s a 15 minutes hike to the top. After that, let it rip.

The status of the shootout for this year is up in the air, according to Sabino Grivalja, the director of golf at the New Mexico Tech Golf Course. Last year, they held it in October as opposed to June, in conjunction with the 49ers celebration, which is the university’s homecoming event. The new date also served to mitigate the heat factor slightly. (Average temperature in Socorro in October is 74 degrees, as opposed to 93 in June.) Though golf is back on in New Mexico, with appropriate measures, they may not want to take the risk of allocating additional resources for the Baca. (There’s a team of first responders on site during the Baca in case something goes awry.)

The Baca Shootout carves out a niche as one of the odder holes in the golf landscape. And sure, it might not be like your typical day of 18 holes. But it’s challenging. (As one of Grivalja’s colleagues told him after finishing one year: “I need a beer and a bed.”) And these hazards, unlike some of the more, shall we say, benign ones that we’re used to, are actually hazardous.

Sure, it’s a novelty. But it’s not a gimmick — it’s hard. It’s also a good social-distanced activity. You know, if you can stay six feet away from the mountain lions and rattlesnakes.
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As a proud graduate of Socorro High School, I finally feel seen. Never been to the top of M mountain; they blow stuff up over there, and it's not open to the public, except on special occasions
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dima wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:21 pm As a proud graduate of Socorro High School, I finally feel seen. Never been to the top of M mountain; they blow stuff up over there, and it's not open to the public, except on special occasions
For work I was up on the mountain during several blast tests. Lots of deaf cows wandering around. And when the 10,000 lb ANFO went off (making diamonds) the whole damn mountain shook. Oh and I miss going to Sofia's Kitchen...yummy.
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HikeUp wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:33 pm For work I was up on the mountain during several blast tests. Lots of deaf cows wandering around. And when the 10,000 lb ANFO went off (making diamonds) the whole damn mountain shook.
Hell yeah! Want to hear more about it.
HikeUp wrote: Thu Aug 20, 2026 5:33 pm Oh and I miss going to Sofia's Kitchen...yummy.
That place opened after I left. Back in my day, it was a video store with a pool table and a questionably-legal card room in the back.