Guess the trail name!

Post by **HikeUp** » Wed Sep 30, 2020 11:14 am

I cheated.

Post by **dima** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:51 am

OK, in the interests of moving this along, cheating is now encouraged!

Post by **Sean** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 11:53 am

The Highline Trail? I didn't cheat, but I think it was called something like that.

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 12:27 pm

Well I have no real idea. Never heard of an explicit trail name for it, and haven't been on it in case there was an old trail sign.

But I believe presumably it is the old target path for the old Road to Nowhere? Aka Convict Road?

So my guesses are:

Devil's Gulch Trail
Iron Fork Trail
Shoemaker Canyon Trail
Road to Nowhere Trail
Convict Trail
Lowline Trail
South South South Mt Hawkins trail
I Have No Other Clue Trail

Post by **dima** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 1:59 pm

I believe the Highline trail is the thing that wraps around Iron Mt, on the other side of the river.

Actually it's not related to the road through the tunnels, I want to say that this trail is older than that road. There was some vague plan to dam the river around the Narrows somewhere to generate power, and that's where the trail starts.

Post by **HikeUp** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:22 pm

PL&P trail from graveyard cyn to iron fork.

Post by **dima** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:31 pm

Yep. "PL&P" is "Pacific light and power", so this was related to the dam they were considering. I don't remember where I read this, but looking for it just now revealed a number of references to the old trail system, such as this (LA times 1937/08/22):

And there's still and old sign near the bottom end:

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:34 pm

Nice! Apparently Hiking Jim said the trail past Iron Fork to Fish Fork was also the PL&P, which I explored a 10 years ago.

So basically I can't even remember the name of a "trail" I was on before. Sad!

Is there any topo map where this trial is named?

Post by **dima** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 2:43 pm

Is it at all recognizable above Iron Fork? It really isn't at all below there. Most older topos have PL&P labelled. For instance

CA_Mount San Antonio_293210_1955_24000_geo.pdf: (18.75 MiB) Downloaded 100 times

Post by **Sean** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:05 pm

Why can't I see your trail sign image, Dima?

Test 1

Test 2

This is what I see on mobile.

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Fri Oct 02, 2020 3:59 pm

dima wrote: ↑Is it at all recognizable above Iron Fork? It really isn't at all below there. Most older topos have PL&P labelled. For instance

CA_Mount San Antonio_293210_1955_24000_geo.pdf

Nice I had only seen 1940's available years ago, those didn't have the named labeled (but trail was there).

Yeah I followed it I think maybe 1/2 way to Fish Fork. Most of the way was pretty passable. I remember encountering a massive brush filled, fallen tree, poison oaked gully though that was exhausting to get through.

walker · Post by **walker** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:27 am

Thank you for the enlightening history lesson on this trail - if the sign is still there, it must have been an officially recognized, if not maintained trail within living memory. Would you say the sign is from the 70s?

Amazing to think how many trails and routes have been surrendered and left to fade away, though I'm not too surprised about this trail given the meandering path it takes through exposed terrain with apparently no water for many miles.

Also probably because the san gabriels either burn up, get washed away, shed tremendous amounts of horribly fractured rock and dirt or are overrun by impenetrable chaparral if not constantly worked.

walker · Post by **walker** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 12:28 am

I forfeit for not naming the trail

Post by **HikeUp** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 7:12 am

What trail?

Post by **dima** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 11:45 am

walker wrote: ↑Would you say the sign is from the 70s?

The maps make me think that trail was already long-abandoned by then, but the sign is in great condition, so I don't know. Go check it out if you're interested. It's a bit above the start at pt 2612. The trails around there aren't obvious, and it's easier to find approaching on the clear trail cut from the other direction. There's a trip report I can point you to.

Post by **JeffH** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 8:38 pm

HikeUp wrote: ↑What trail?
IMG_8796.jpg

Windy Gap?

Post by **HikeUp** » Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:48 pm

JeffH wrote: ↑
HikeUp wrote: ↑What trail?
IMG_8796.jpg
Windy Gap?

Correct! Well done.

Post by **JeffH** » Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:45 pm

Old-timers will recognize this one. Bonus if you know the year it disappeared....

Post by **Sean** » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:01 pm

Is that the bottle opener on the Ski Hut Trail? I'm guessing it disappeared before I started hiking in 2011. But I also seem to recall a bottle opener on the back of a Baldy sign a little before you reach the final push to the summit.

Post by **JeffH** » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:52 pm

Chicken dinner for you. First picture in September 2011, this one from May 2012.

Post by **HikeUp** » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:23 pm

This thread needs reviving...

you're it!

Post by **HikeUp** » Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:31 pm

This might be tough, or not...

Looking at the peak after taking a left at the trail junction...

Elwood · Post by **Elwood** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 7:06 am

This looks a bit like 7W04.4 near 8386 headed towards Etiwanda coming up from Joe Eliot.

Post by **HikeUp** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 8:59 pm

Elwood wrote: ↑This looks a bit like 7W04.4 near 8386 headed towards Etiwanda coming up from Joe Eliot.

Too far east, but in the general vicinity.

Post by **Uncle Rico** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:25 am

How about Bighorn as you start the ascent to Cucamonga?

Post by **HikeUp** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 10:12 am

Uncle Rico wrote: ↑How about Bighorn as you start the ascent to Cucamonga?

Right peak, wrong side. Picture taken looking east after leaving 7W07. Coming up from Kelly's Camp, turn left to Bighorn, turn right to Ontario.

Post by **Uncle Rico** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:40 am

Ok, this one's probably pretty easy for y'all. But what trail is this?

Post by **HikeUp** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 6:03 pm

Uncle Rico wrote: ↑Ok, this one's probably pretty easy for y'all. But what trail is this?
Name That Trail.JPG

PCT, near Throop.

Post by **Uncle Rico** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 9:36 pm

A bit west of there.

Post by **Uncle Rico** » Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:13 am

And not PCT