But then again, you be travellin' light!
Curious, how much water did you carry for the Whitney hike?
What's the hardest hike you've ever done?
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You must really love to suffer, animule!
But then again, you be travellin' light!
Curious, how much water did you carry for the Whitney hike?
But then again, you be travellin' light!
Curious, how much water did you carry for the Whitney hike?
We carried 3 liters between us. We replenished at Rock Creek and Crabtree Meadows. At Guitar Lake, we stocked up and were carrying 2 liters each up to the summit. We ended up with nearly half of that at the end. We were evidently pretty well hydrated during the first half of the hike.EManBevHills wrote:You must really love to suffer, animule!
But then again, you be travellin' light!
Curious, how much water did you carry for the Whitney hike?
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Did you eat GU and or any of the other performance enhancing products on any of the other hikes on your list?AlanK wrote:We spent some of our ride back form Lone Pine yesterday discussing this subject. We decided that Whitney from Horseshoe Meadows is the hardest day hike we've done -- 40 miles with mile 29 being the summit of Whitney. Baldy 9 Peaks is still close due to greater elevation gain/loss. Tuolumne Meadows to Mammoth is still easy by comparison to those.AlanK wrote:My son and I have debated which hikes are the hardest. Having done most of the local ones a bunch of times, the order changes for various reasons. Some contenders, in approximate order, starting with the hardest.
Baldy 9 Peaks: Up Bear Flat, W. Baldy, Baldy, Harwood, the 3T's, Ontario, Bighorn, and Cucamonga, down Ice House Canyon. About 31 miles and 12000' gain/loss.
C2C: Everyone ranks this one high.
San Gorgonio 9 Peaks: Up Momyer, over to San Bernardino, then pick off the peaks in a line, heading down Vivian Creek. About 28 miles and 9000' gain/loss. The first time it seemed harder than C2C, but now it seems about the same.
Iron Mountain from Heaton Flat: The downhill's the worst.
Baldy, Dawson, Pine, Wright from Wrightwood via the Acorn Trail and "The Real Backbone." Plenty of steep up and down.
Bear Flat and Vivian Creek seem rather easy when done alone after doing them as portions of longer hikes!
Actually, the John Muir Trail is harder than these but, as mentioned elsewhere, it is not a day hike. Same for the High Sierra Trail.
Our longest day hike ever was the second day of the JMT. We went from Tuolumne Meadows to Mammoth -- about 35 miles. A nice long day but not as hard as the 9 Peaks hikes.
Whitney? Done alone, it may be easier than Iron Mountain. Certainly easier than the 9 Peaks hikes or C2C.
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Did you eat GU on any of the other hikes on your list?AlanK wrote:We spent some of our ride back form Lone Pine yesterday discussing this subject. We decided that Whitney from Horseshoe Meadows is the hardest day hike we've done -- 40 miles with mile 29 being the summit of Whitney. Baldy 9 Peaks is still close due to greater elevation gain/loss. Tuolumne Meadows to Mammoth is still easy by comparison to those.AlanK wrote:My son and I have debated which hikes are the hardest. Having done most of the local ones a bunch of times, the order changes for various reasons. Some contenders, in approximate order, starting with the hardest.
Baldy 9 Peaks: Up Bear Flat, W. Baldy, Baldy, Harwood, the 3T's, Ontario, Bighorn, and Cucamonga, down Ice House Canyon. About 31 miles and 12000' gain/loss.
C2C: Everyone ranks this one high.
San Gorgonio 9 Peaks: Up Momyer, over to San Bernardino, then pick off the peaks in a line, heading down Vivian Creek. About 28 miles and 9000' gain/loss. The first time it seemed harder than C2C, but now it seems about the same.
Iron Mountain from Heaton Flat: The downhill's the worst.
Baldy, Dawson, Pine, Wright from Wrightwood via the Acorn Trail and "The Real Backbone." Plenty of steep up and down.
Bear Flat and Vivian Creek seem rather easy when done alone after doing them as portions of longer hikes!
Actually, the John Muir Trail is harder than these but, as mentioned elsewhere, it is not a day hike. Same for the High Sierra Trail.
Our longest day hike ever was the second day of the JMT. We went from Tuolumne Meadows to Mammoth -- about 35 miles. A nice long day but not as hard as the 9 Peaks hikes.
Whitney? Done alone, it may be easier than Iron Mountain. Certainly easier than the 9 Peaks hikes or C2C.
I'm researching it. So far, I am pretty sure I have never eaten any glycol borate, at least not intentionally. Also, I am not, and have never been, in Guam.FIGHT ON wrote:Do you eat it on your hikes? Specifically, Did you eat GU on any of the other hikes on your list?
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The GU in your trip report. http://www.mt-whitney.info/viewtopic.php?p=11246#11246AlanK wrote:I'm researching it. So far, I am pretty sure I have never eaten any glycol borate, at least not intentionally. Also, I am not, and have never been, in Guam.FIGHT ON wrote:Do you eat it on your hikes? Specifically, Did you eat GU on any of the other hikes on your list?
After lunch, of course, came the long slog up Whitney. We have done Whitney from the back only once. That was on the final day of our JMT hike a couple of years ago. Then we started at Wallace Creek and it would have been a breeze had I not been nursing an ankle sprain. This time was harder -- no pain or injuries – no excuses, just tiredness after 20+ miles of hiking on a short night and an early start. Thank God for GU. I was not feeling all that energetic up the switchbacks, but at least I knew I could do them before the next stop. We had slowed up, but were still moving well enough that there was no question about going for the summit. We finally made it at around 3:20 PM. Getting there that late meant that the crowds had thinned and we only saw three people during our relaxed stay on top.
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No. I'm asking AlanK about the GU that he wrote about in his trip report. http://www.mt-whitney.info/viewtopic.php?p=11246#11246
AlanK has a twisted sense of humor. For some reason, he is being an uncooperative witness. There should be a judge to threaten him with contempt, but there isn't.
I think the problem is that he doesn't believe that it matters if he ate GU or not in some hike from the past. He responds to logic, though. Maybe he can be convinced that is is relevant to something. Yeah... that'd work. Tha DA approach definitely won't cut it.
I think the problem is that he doesn't believe that it matters if he ate GU or not in some hike from the past. He responds to logic, though. Maybe he can be convinced that is is relevant to something. Yeah... that'd work. Tha DA approach definitely won't cut it.
Just tell him you used the GU to prevent your nipples from chafing. Maybe he will stop cutting holes in his shirt.AlanK wrote:AlanK has a twisted sense of humor. For some reason, he is being an uncooperative witness. There should be a judge to threaten him with contempt, but there isn't.
I think the problem is that he doesn't believe that it matters if he ate GU or not in some hike from the past. He responds to logic, though. Maybe he can be convinced that is is relevant to something. Yeah... that'd work. Tha DA approach definitely won't cut it.
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I am no DA 
I simply wanted to know about the GU that AlanK has posted in his last hike. It's a simple question. Kinda like how much water do you carry and such. What's with the big run around??
I simply wanted to know about the GU that AlanK has posted in his last hike. It's a simple question. Kinda like how much water do you carry and such. What's with the big run around??
For just hiking, no rope but did use one ice axe, I think my hardest was McDonald Peak in the Mission Mountains from Valley floor on the Reservation side as a day trip.
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... -peak.html
"The Missions receive copious precipitation that nourishes not only a deep, long-lasting snowpack on the peaks, but a dense jungle of vegetation below the snowline. There is no trail up this big mountain, and getting to treeline is 3/4ths the battle. There are approaches from both east and west that, to a certain extent, minimize the bushwhacking below treeline, but be warned—this peak, from any direction, under any conditions, at any time, is a lot of work."
"And never, ever, EVER forget you're in grizzly country; they insist on being left alone—disagreement on that point is not an argument you'll win!"
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... -peak.html
"The Missions receive copious precipitation that nourishes not only a deep, long-lasting snowpack on the peaks, but a dense jungle of vegetation below the snowline. There is no trail up this big mountain, and getting to treeline is 3/4ths the battle. There are approaches from both east and west that, to a certain extent, minimize the bushwhacking below treeline, but be warned—this peak, from any direction, under any conditions, at any time, is a lot of work."
"And never, ever, EVER forget you're in grizzly country; they insist on being left alone—disagreement on that point is not an argument you'll win!"
2nd is Granite Peak via Froze to Death plateau...
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... -peak.html
Why?
Altitude sickness and boulder hopping, also freeing 5 class with ~1000 fall potential, getting lost, oh and a thunderstorm also. Forgot to mention the snow bridge, Taco would love that:
http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.p ... _id=308360
http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock ... -peak.html
Why?
Altitude sickness and boulder hopping, also freeing 5 class with ~1000 fall potential, getting lost, oh and a thunderstorm also. Forgot to mention the snow bridge, Taco would love that:
http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.p ... _id=308360
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Oh really? "doesn't believe that it matters if he ate GU or not in some hike from the past."??AlanK wrote:AlanK has a twisted sense of humor. For some reason, he is being an uncooperative witness. There should be a judge to threaten him with contempt, but there isn't.
I think the problem is that he doesn't believe that it matters if he ate GU or not in some hike from the past. He responds to logic, though. Maybe he can be convinced that is is relevant to something. Yeah... that'd work. Tha DA approach definitely won't cut it.
Thanking God that you had GU sure does sound like it didn't matter!
And then "Maybe he can be convinced that is is relevant to something."
Again, thanking God that you had GU? Seriously, sure sounds like it was "relevant" to your hike!
and finally "He responds to logic, though."
If eating it didn't matter and was irrelevant, then why did you eat it?
Where is the logic in that?
From AllanK TR.
"After lunch, of course, came the long slog up Whitney. We have done Whitney from the back only once. That was on the final day of our JMT hike a couple of years ago. Then we started at Wallace Creek and it would have been a breeze had I not been nursing an ankle sprain. This time was harder -- no pain or injuries – no excuses, just tiredness after 20+ miles of hiking on a short night and an early start. Thank God for GU. I was not feeling all that energetic up the switchbacks, but at least I knew I could do them before the next stop. We had slowed up, but were still moving well enough that there was no question about going for the summit. We finally made it at around 3:20 PM. Getting there that late meant that the crowds had thinned and we only saw three people during our relaxed stay on top."
I am still confused as to why my use or non-use of GU on some past hike is important to this forum. I freely admit that I am pulling someone's chain by failing to publish in this space a complete accounting of my GU consumption. However, I provided in my TR enough information to answer the question of whether or not I eat GU on hikes. Some posters (e.g., Hikin_Jim) have picked up on that fact, although I doubt that they care about the answer.
1. One can conclude that "Thank God for GU" implies consumption of GU on our recent Horseshoe Meadows hike.
2. I hope that everyone here knows that I have the minimal intelligence to not use some product for the first time on the hardest day hike of my life. If you don't know that" I will assert here that it is true that I am at least that smart.
QED.
That's about all there is to say, although I will add that I think that GU is a fine product and heartily recommend it to others for its intended use.
1. One can conclude that "Thank God for GU" implies consumption of GU on our recent Horseshoe Meadows hike.
2. I hope that everyone here knows that I have the minimal intelligence to not use some product for the first time on the hardest day hike of my life. If you don't know that" I will assert here that it is true that I am at least that smart.
QED.
That's about all there is to say, although I will add that I think that GU is a fine product and heartily recommend it to others for its intended use.