20120304 Schvaterfall Cyn First Descent - 300ft'er!!!!

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Taco
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Amanda and I just got back from doing the first descent of a previously un-named canyon that drains into Bichota Canyon near Rattlesnake Peak. It was relatively tough, with lots of bushwhacking. The rating is somewhere around 4BIV. The 4 is for the multistage rapp, as well as the fun anchors (rock pinch, rock pile/deadman). It might be a class C instead of B, but I dunno. Splitting hairs... it's a wet canyon and you could swim in it, but we didn't so I just figure whatever. The rating is a general guide, not a rule. ANywho... so there was a 300ft or so waterfall! We did it in two stages, 170ft on R1 and 150ft on R2. Anchor was 20ft back on R1 so it's right at about 300ft. The pics are great.

Enjoy them pics yo.

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Looking down the canyon from the dropin

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First couple rapps and a pool

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Cool rapp

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Some of the easier bushwhacking

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Getting slottier

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Stage 1 of the 300ft'er

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Amanda descending stage 1

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MONSTER Poison Oak

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Looking down the 2nd stage

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2nd stage

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Next rapp into a pool

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Next rapp into a pool

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Nice little spot

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Terrible rapp that pissed me off. I was literally covered in those stinking biting ants and the rope was threatening to get all caught up in the dead stuff at the bottom. Went better than expected.

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Outta here!

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3hr hike out Bichota Canyon

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A new friend!

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Found this before hiking onto R39.

Here's a massive Acme Mapper link...
http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=34.27243,-11 ... River%20CA

A is the start of 2n15 or whatever that you hike up to reach the drop in (B). C is the end... D is the end of Bichota Cyn, and E is the car!

Seeya
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Nice work Amanda and Taco - looks like another fun outing, had I not been extremely tired from the previous three days I would have found a way to make it work but I needed a down day.

MPO may become a new lexicon for me - Massive Poison Oak, I need that like a sharp stick in the eye - the second one sounds less painful for me :shock: :D

Nice waterfalls - great pictures :D
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Haha, it was a loooong day for sure. We missed our machete bro! No signs of PO yet, keeping fingers crossed. :/
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Post by AW~ »

Excellent waterfall....nice flow for this drought season too. me thinks you hit the jackpot in terms of finding a nice SG waterfall amidst jungle bushwhacking.

So strange you found that doll. Wasn't Bichota the start of the curve fire and 'they' said it was set by some devil cult? There be the smoking gun?
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Cool canyon! The name cracks me up.

Does anyone know what the calcified fern formations are called? If it were limestone, it would be called travertine. (Limestone - don't take it for granite. :lol: )

But really - is there a specific term for this? It doesn't occur very much in the SGs.
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Post by longcut »

really, really cool.
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The statue you guys found is "Santa Muerte"
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There must have been some sort of civilization near the head of that canyon because of all the Eupatoria. Cool to see that Horsetail Rush in there!
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PackerGreg wrote: There must have been some sort of civilization near the head of that canyon because of all the Eupatoria. Cool to see that Horsetail Rush in there!
There are a bunch of foundations and chimneys there - remnants of a buncha houses burned in the 2002 Curve Fire. :-(
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Nice work MANG
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Burchey wrote: Nice work MANG
fo rizzle dawg
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How was the final descent into the canyon? Do you think it's worth bushwhacking up to from below? I made it ~2.5 miles up Bichota Canyon "trail" last summer if you can even call it that, and It took a lot longer than I thought it would. Are any of the waterfalls back there worth exploring? I may try again, but set aside more time. I think there was a freak rainstorm when I did it too, which made it arguably worse.
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Maybe. I think the bushwhacking at the bottom of the canyon was really bad. I don't think it would be worth it at all.
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Thanks, maybe I'll save if for a day I really feel like suffering or something. This looked promising on google maps (34.27474894994771,-117.80825810460604) and this (34.274390605735995,-117.81425576156533), which is where I think you went down. I remember seeing a bunch of water flowing on the pigeon ridge fire road ~5 miles out over the summer in the middle of a drought year a couple of years ago, so I expect that there will be a lot of water now.
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carl swindle wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 11:46 pm Thanks, maybe I'll save if for a day I really feel like suffering or something. This looked promising on google maps (34.27474894994771,-117.80825810460604) and this (34.274390605735995,-117.81425576156533), which is where I think you went down. I remember seeing a bunch of water flowing on the pigeon ridge fire road ~5 miles out over the summer in the middle of a drought year a couple of years ago, so I expect that there will be a lot of water now.
The first set of coords looks cool on GE but in person isn't as impressive. I checked it out from above when Dima, Danny, and I hiked up through the area.

The second set of coords is the bottom of the big waterfall. I don't recall if we dropped in near where the road crosses the canyon or not. Usually we try to drop in as high as possible unless it's clear that there are no technical challenges there.
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Thanks, whenever I do this, I'll aim for at least the spot with the big waterfall, and maybe the second depending on how overgrown it is.
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A public-service announcement! I just added a custom bbcode to make latlon pairs into clickable links that route to caltopo. So if instead of typing

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[latlon=34.123,-118.456]
And you get this: 34.123,-118.456. Clicking shows the link in caltopo, with some hard-coded zoom level and layer selection. The point in question is at the center of the map, without any marker, unfortunately. But it's better than nothing!

Carl: I updated your post above to use this.
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dima wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:37 pm A public-service announcement! I just added a custom bbcode to make latlon pairs into clickable links that route to caltopo.
Could you repeat this info to the Admin & Tech Support forum? Pretty neat. Thanks.
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