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Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:32 pm
by RichardK
We hiked Chino Hills today in search of the elusive bobcat. Alas, the beast refused to appear. As a consolation, three coyotes and a snake came out. Does anyone know the species of the snake?

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Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:56 pm
by arocknoid
That is a Pacific gopher snake, Pituophis catenifer catenifer.

Probably the most often encountered non-venomous snake species in SoCal. Nice photos.

Thanks for the Ken S. Latrans photos, too. Those furballs are ubiquitous...

kind regards,
Arocknoid

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:58 pm
by Mike P
Gopher snake. San Diego Gopher Snake, to be exact.

Thanks for the beautiful pictures!

Edit: I just noticed that arocknoid posted Pacific Gopher snake. I'm reasonably sure that the San Diego subsp, P. c. annectans lives in Chino Hills State Park. The Pacific subspecies, P.c. catenifer, lives further north.

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:28 am
by mattmaxon
Those are healthy looking Coyotes.

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:30 am
by Uncle Rico
Super nice pics Richard. I don't know that I've ever seen a coyote in the middle of the day and its been another year without seeing a snake for me.

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:23 am
by longcut
gorgeous photos. healthy looking pups. i get every few days, often for 10 miles at a time, and have noticed seeing significantly less critters in the last few years. Anyone else seeing similar patterns or am I just getting paranoid? For instance, last summer I was out locally at least 100 miles per month and I dont recall encounterin a single rattlesnake. :( I'll feel a bit better if you guys are seeing tons off them. somebody lie to me.

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:54 pm
by lilbitmo
Yorba Linda and Chino Hills provide plenty of food for those pups, they have climbed over six foot fences and attacked my dog Charlie before, 14 puncture wounds to be exact, but alas he got great mouth fulls of fur as well, such is the cycle of life. Great pictures Richard

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:37 am
by tekewin
Great quality photos. Thanks for posting.

I've been expecting to see snakes out with the warm weather, but haven't seen any since late last summer.

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:18 am
by JerryN
How do you tell the difference between a Pacific Gopher Snake and a San Diego Gopher Snake other than the laid back attitude of the San Diego Gopher?

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:22 am
by Mike P
JerryN wrote: How do you tell the difference between a Pacific Gopher Snake and a San Diego Gopher Snake other than the laid back attitude of the San Diego Gopher?
The more southern San Diego snakes tend to use the definite article "the" when referring to roads. For example, "No way I'm going to cross THE 15, I could get squashed." The more northern Pacific snake would never say that. However, the Pacific spp. tends to use the word "hella" for whatever weird reason...

And there you have it...

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:56 am
by JerryN
Mike P wrote:
JerryN wrote: How do you tell the difference between a Pacific Gopher Snake and a San Diego Gopher Snake other than the laid back attitude of the San Diego Gopher?
The more southern San Diego snakes tend to use the definite article "the" when referring to roads. For example, "No way I'm going to cross THE 15, I could get squashed." The more northern Pacific snake would never say that. However, the Pacific spp. tends to use the word "hella" for whatever weird reason...

And there you have it...
Good to know. I thought it might have to do with the Pacific Gopher Snakes having a slight pinot color and the San Diego ones more of a hoppy look.

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:03 pm
by Mike P
In all seriousness, here is a table that summarizes the differences between California Gopher snake subspecies: CA Gopher Snakes

Re: Three Coyotes and a Snake

Posted: Sun Feb 16, 2014 8:11 am
by JerryN
thanks, I did not realize there was that much difference between the two.

Jerry