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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 6:58 pm
by dima
Sean wrote:
dima wrote: The red dots are very accessible and easily interpretable, but not entirely correct sometimes.
Do you mean that the satellite misdetected fire activity?
We're talking about the imprecise satellite fire reports on caltopo, I think. AW had a good point: if you select specific satellites, it tells you the reported temperature, that one can interpret as a confidence of some sort.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:33 pm
by dima
I just figured out how to get flightradar24 to give you altitudes, which you can use to figure out where the tankers made their drops (the plane descends, makes the drop, and then climbs back up). On the most recent pass it dropped right around the ridge-top E of buckhorn. That makes me think it hasn't crossed over yet, but they're concerned about it.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:07 pm
by HikeUp
They appear to be setting up a line on Kratka Ridge. Wonder if they bulldozed it. That'd be a shame...it's a nice ridge for a stroll from Three Points to Waterman to Kratka.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:13 pm
by davidwiese
I spent a fond night on Kratka during my SMT thru. Hope it survives.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:15 pm
by HikeUp
It's burning real hot on the south side of Rankin Clamshell...started flaring up there just around 5pm-ish...super bright on the arcadia2 cam (when it rotates to look NE)...

http://www.alertwildfire.org/orangecoca ... &v=81e002f

edited to correct location

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:43 pm
by HikeUp
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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:51 pm
by Sean
HikeUp wrote: It's burning real hot on the south side of Rankin Clamshell...started flaring up there just around 5pm-ish...super bright on the arcadia2 cam (when it rotates to look NE)...
Taken from Alhambra just now.

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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:57 pm
by patrick
You can see that flare up very clearly on the mt wilson cam too...here's the timelapse from 3pm—6pm:



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around 4:30 something catches. still see some flames on the current image around 10pm.
on the bright side, angeles nf twitter feed saying 6% containment

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:19 pm
by patrick
poking around that link hikeup posted, this camera has a direct view of the southern front of the fire— http://www.alertwildfire.org/orangecoca ... &v=81e002f
you can watch a timelapse, although maybe only for the next 12 hours or so. crazy-looking stuff though, seeing that fire line just over the foothills:

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:14 am
by Taco
I commute through the foothill areas around Monrovia and saw the fire three times today: morning, afternoon heading home, and tonight after dark to show my lady the fire. It’s a big jagged M shape. Bigass flames roaring up that look massive. Solid view from the baseball diamond at the park in Duarte off Shamrock just north of Royal Oaks.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 7:47 am
by AW~
Looks like the good news is official for the armchair amateurs like myself. No red on the GOES. The crews worked on it all night, south and north....I have the north ending at 7 am.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:07 am
by Sean
I drove around Duarte, Monrovia and Arcadia at sunrise a couple hours ago. The smoke was so thick I couldn't see the mountains at all, let alone the fire, which had intensified overnight.

6:00 AM - Fire in Santa Anita Canyon seen from Mt. Wilson.

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Smoke hanging over Santa Anita Racetrack blots out the mountains.

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Gate closed at top of Santa Anita Ave. Visibility: about a quarter mile.

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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:32 am
by Sean
According to the latest satellite data, the north front crossed Kratka into Snowcrest, the west front is nearly into upper Devils Canyon, and the south front is on the doorsteps of Chantry Flat and Arcadia Wilderness Park. Can anyone confirm this?

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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:01 am
by Sean
Sean wrote:
HikeUp wrote: Some "Private Plane" is flying over the fire in a systematic way.
Taking FLIR imagery?
ANF just released this map.

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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:18 am
by walker
6:00 AM - Fire in Santa Anita Canyon seen from Mt. Wilson.
I think that's white horse peak in the middle of the flames in your image - fire eating its way a bit lower into the east fork santa anita - the archive images show a sudden drop in activity shortly after that image so maybe they dropped something on it.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:22 am
by walker
Why does everything smell like hickory-smoked beef jerky all of a sudden?

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:55 am
by HikeUp
walker wrote: Why does everything smell like hickory-smoked beef jerky all of a sudden?
I think I detect a hint of bear, deer and mountain lion too.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:42 am
by AW~
Yeah, the south I consider a de facto controlled burn...I dont count it anymore.

For the northern end, its over but the process.
There is one thing left: the start.

The super scoopers were located!
https://www.wrightwoodcalif.com/forum/i ... 2.180.html
page 10.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:33 am
by Sean
Very good ArcGIS Story Map available here.

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Pictures from the ANF FB page.

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From Loudlabs video.

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From WOW Media video.

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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:25 pm
by patrick
Angeles twitter account posted that the fire is "near Chantry Flat" —


Looking at the Mt. Wilson cam, it does look like it's dipped quite a bit further into Big Santa Anita:
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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:52 pm
by patrick
Looking awfully close the foothills now too...
first image is looking over santa anita dam, second image towards monrovia from the south. can't tell if it's below clamshell rd yet

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 3:22 am
by Sean
From Monrovia's fire update site:

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Low-res video from Islip Saddle with fire approaching highway.



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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:54 am
by Sean
patrick wrote: Looking at the Mt. Wilson cam, it does look like it's dipped quite a bit further into Big Santa Anita
I made this based on recent towercam images. It shows how low the fire has reached in Santa Anita Canyon. Chantry is behind the ridge on the right around 2200' in elevation, directly across the canyon from the fire front, maybe half a mile away as the bird flies.

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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:39 am
by davidwiese
Not looking good for Chantry Flat or all the cabins in BSAC. :(

To the north, the Triplet Rocks ridge has burned and it looks like the East Twin as well. All the Mermaids below. It will probably jump the Angeles Crest soon...

What a devastating fire for my favorite mountain range.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 12:15 pm
by patrick
Looks like they're really trying to hold it at the river below Chantry:

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:51 pm
by patrick
looks really horrifying from mt wilson right now:
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i counted seven aircraft working the fire just now on fr24, all on the southern side

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:57 pm
by HikeUp
I think Mt. Zion is burning.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 4:58 pm
by HikeUp
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Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:00 pm
by HikeUp
2 tankers are circling. They stopped it from running in to Monrovia, now they are concentrating on Mt. Wilson before dark.

Re: Bobcat Fire in West Fork

Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2020 7:52 pm
by patrick
fire got to chantry flat, per forest service:

first hike i did in angeles was the gabrieleno