EISPIRATEN

TacoDelRio wrote:My avatar rings true at the moment. I have no idea what the hell is going on. Thank you, Russian Standard Vodka.

TacoDelRio wrote:Uh, excuse me, AW and Jim, btu I am very offended right now, being approximately 1/325,432,564th Mongolian by assumption. Please cease your racist comments.

Visitors to national forests on the decline
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27970449/
no quotes here 8)

New rule eases ban on firearms in national parks
By MATTHEW DALY, Associated Press Writer Matthew Daly, Associated Press Writer Fri Dec 5, 4:33 pm ET

WASHINGTON – People will now be able to carry concealed firearms in some national parks and wildlife refuges.

An Interior Department rule issued Friday allows an individual to carry a loaded weapon in a park or wildlife refuge — but only if the person has a permit for a concealed weapon, and if the state where the park or refuge is located also allows loaded firearms in parks.

The rule overturns a Reagan-era regulation that has restricted loaded guns in parks and wildlife refuges. The previous regulations required that firearms be unloaded and placed somewhere that is not easily accessible, such as in a car trunk.

Assistant Interior Secretary Lyle Laverty said the new rule respects a long tradition of states and the federal government working together on natural resource issues.

The regulation allows individuals to carry concealed firearms in federal parks and wildlife refuges to the same extent they can lawfully do so under state law, Laverty said, adding that the approach is in line with rules adopted by the federal Bureau of Land Management and the U.S. Forest Service. Those agencies let visitors carry weapons consistent with applicable federal and state laws.

The National Rifle Association hailed the rule change, which will take effect next month before President-elect Barack Obama takes office.

"We are pleased that the Interior Department recognizes the right of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families while enjoying America's national parks and wildlife refuges," said Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist.

The rule will restore the rights of law-abiding gun owners on federal lands and make federal law consistent with the state where the lands are located, Cox said. The NRA led efforts to change gun regulations they called inconsistent and unclear.

A group representing park rangers, retirees and conservation organizations said the rule change will lead to confusion for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.

"Once again, political leaders in the Bush administration have ignored the preferences of the American public by succumbing to political pressure, in this case generated by the National Rifle Association," said Bill Wade, president of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees.

"This regulation will put visitors, employees and precious resources of the National Park System at risk. We will do everything possible to overturn it and return to a commonsense approach to guns in national parks that has been working for decades," Wade said.

The park rule will be published in the Federal Register next week and take effect 30 days later, well before Obama takes office Jan. 20. Overturning the rule could take months or even years, since it would require the new administration to restart the lengthy rule-making process.

HikeUp wrote:A group representing park rangers, retirees and conservation organizations said the rule change will lead to confusion for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.

AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...

L.A. Times
Southern California -- this just in
Body found in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park
9:22 AM, December 17, 2008
A man was found dead in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park this morning, officials said.

The body was found by authorities at 6:40 a.m. along a hiking trail in the canyon, not far from the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, said Sgt. Mark Slater of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

The man was believed to be a Latino in his 30s, he said.

The cause of death is unknown, and it’s also uncertain how long the body had been in the canyon, Slater said.

--Nathan Olivarez-Giles

Hikin_Jim wrote:

AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...

Apparently, not much is known about the death. It may not be hiking related.

L.A. Times
Southern California -- this just in
Body found in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park
9:22 AM, December 17, 2008
A man was found dead in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park this morning, officials said.

The body was found by authorities at 6:40 a.m. along a hiking trail in the canyon, not far from the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, said Sgt. Mark Slater of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.

The man was believed to be a Latino in his 30s, he said.

The cause of death is unknown, and it’s also uncertain how long the body had been in the canyon, Slater said.

--Nathan Olivarez-Giles

AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...

Body in Eaton Canyon is suicide victim
Article Launched: 12/17/2008 11:03:06 AM PST

ALTADENA - A man whose body was discovered on a hiking trail in Eaton Canyon this morning committed suicide, sheriff's officials said.

A suicide note was discovered near the body of the man, believed to be in his 30s. He was discovered at about 7 a.m. near the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, sheriff's officials said.

The man died of a single gunshot wound to the head, officials said.

HikeUp wrote:

AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...

http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_11254130

Suicide apparently.

Body in Eaton Canyon is suicide victim
Article Launched: 12/17/2008 11:03:06 AM PST

ALTADENA - A man whose body was discovered on a hiking trail in Eaton Canyon this morning committed suicide, sheriff's officials said.

A suicide note was discovered near the body of the man, believed to be in his 30s. He was discovered at about 7 a.m. near the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, sheriff's officials said.

The man died of a single gunshot wound to the head, officials said.

lilbitmo wrote:Simonov, are you selling that many guns or are you trying to tell us something - Dr. Kivorkian?

Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.

Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.

AlanK wrote:Are Suicide Rates Higher at Christmas?