PL&P trail: the bottom chunk at Williams canyon

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The last time I walked the PL&P trail it looked in good-enough shape to explore, especially since the Bridge fire got rid of all the brush.

I used the magic LIDAR-based maps to see the trailbed (it's still there almost through for the whole run of the trail). I traced that, added it to OSM (marked "abandoned"), and made an export to caltopo for easy cross-referencing.

Today I went to check out the bottom of the PL&P trail. I started, near the mouth of Williams canyon, at Shoemaker Rd..

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There was another car in the lot. I was doubtful there was another PL&P enthusiast out there, and I quickly crossed paths with the other person. He didn't speak english, so I don't know what he was up to, but he was way too clean-looking to have walked the PL&P trail.

Shoemaker Rd crosses Williams canyon on a dirt embankment, with a human-built drainage crossing it

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I poked around a bit, and eventually found the trail. There's a short dirt road going down the embankment. Turning left into the first drainage, and then scrambling up the slope to the right meets the start of the trail. This thing predates this dirt road and the embankment and Shoemaker Rd, so the start isn't where it used to be.

Once I was on the trail, it became clear that I made a mistake. One big reason to be doing this now is that the Bridge fire burned all the brush. However this place wasn't in the burn area. That was a few miles up the trail, far enough that I couldn't even see it. Oh well. I brought loppers and a saw, and was ready for battle.

As claimed by the LIDAR map, the trailbed is still here, and following the trail wasn't difficult. There was brush, some burned dead wood from an old fire and some washouts. Nothing terrible. A representative "good" section near the start:

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I'm going up there somewhere:

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The trail on the slopes above is in this photo, but I can't make it out. Here's a good section next to a cut on a rock wall

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I did a lot of cutting, so progress wasn't super fast. Eventually I crossed to a North-facing slope. The brush got much thicker, and I mostly gave up on the cutting. Eventually I arrived at the saddle below point 3261. The brush eased here, but the trail was no longer discernible as a thing that's different from various clearings on the ridge top. The LIDAR map says the trailbed is distinct even here, but there's too much brush to make it out. Where I came from:

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Here the trail traverses the steep slope to the E of 3261, then switches back to the saddle behind 3261. I couldn't find the route, and the steep slope looked unfriendly, so I stayed on the ridge. The brush kinda sucked, but it worked. From the top of 3261, looking forward along the ridge:

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The PL&P joins my ridge in the saddle directly ahead, runs up the ridge a bit, and then hits a junction: it traverses to the right, while the trail across Graveyard Canyon to Doe flat traverses left. You can sorta see the trail cut to the left, but I don't see one to the right. The LIDAR maps can clearly see both trails. We're next to Rattlesnake peak

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I went to the junction, and followed the PL&P a bit. Don't see the junction at all: the Graveyard canyon trail is buried in brush. The PL&P is better brush-wise, but the trail isn't distinct and I was never sure I was exactly on it. Eventually it got sufficiently late, and I turned around. I was approaching the ridge crossing to take me out of the Williams Canyon drainage, and to the East fork, but I wasn't quite there yet. The trail straight ahead:

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No idea where precisely it is, but the terrain is friendly-enough that all the lines would work. Where I came from:

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Graveyard canyon:

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On the way back I decided to skirt 3261, and make an effort to stay on the trail, with the switchbacks and everything. I made the first two switchbacks, but then the brush became too much, and I cut the rest to the bottom-most traverse. This crosses some steep stuff, but the cuts are all still here

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and it's all sorta ok. Apparently there were power lines here at some point. Found remains of two towers

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Eventually I was back at the saddle and on the trail, and got back to the bottom pretty quickly since I cut back the brush.

Coming back to work on this would be good, although I might teleport to the next chunk by riding to one of the tunnels, and scrambling up.
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Post by AW~ »

Without gold, I think these trails fade away...sort of. When I went to Williams canyon in search of waterfall, its not that much different.
Anyways, there was a use trail...which I didnt follow. I knew to call BS that there was some reason to continue.
But yeah, there is development...I was reading something...maybe Sierra Club archives about previous trips to Williams canyon...but it was to Rattlesnake peak. https://hundredpeaks.org/lookouts/1967_05.pdf page 6 "The Williams Canyon route had been scouted on April 23(1967). The trail is very faint, overgrown, and completely eroded away in some areas. It joins the Cow Canyon firebreak, and continues northwest to the summit. This route was too much for an August hike because of its approximately 4,600 foot elevation gain. I looked for an approach through Bichota Canyon, and found a fire road that climbed to about 4,800 foot elevation and to within three miles of Rattlesnake Peak."

...the trip turned sour in Bichota.
" The firebreak route out proved to be no bargain. There were a number of hills to climb over which we could have avoided by going down Williams Canyon. The brush on the firebreak was as bad as in the canyon. The final descent toward the river was made by climbing and sliding down a steep slope by flashlight. It was about 10:30 p.m. when we waded across the river toward the rangers who had been waiting for us. The rather obvious conclusion is that there is still no easy way to bag Rattlesnake Peak. And even downhill hiking through brush and heat can be very rough. Spring is definitely the time for hiking this area, even in a foot or two of snow.

I reported the two hikers we had left near the summit to the East Fork Ranger Station and pinpointed their location on the topo. They decided to initiate rescue operations immediately."
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Wow. That report is excellent! You always seem to know about these. Everything around Rattlesnake peak and Bichota canyon is indeed a pain in the butt. The Williams canyon trail they're talking about does sound like what I was on, but if it was "very faint, overgrown, and completely eroded in some areas" already in 1967, there shouldn't be anything left today, so I don't know. I'm a glass-half-full kinda guy, so I'll say it's "mostly still there" :) The trailbed is very much still there almost everywhere. The brush was only bad in a few spots (you can clealy see those areas in the aerials). In fact, if somebody wanted to clean this up, it's still doable, and that's despite no maintenance at all. There are no cairns or cut branches or trimmed yucca tips or anything. This particular section isn't worth restoring, but it connects to the Narrows and Iron Fork and Fish Fork and all that. I'm going to keep trimming every time I go over there. Speaking of which, who wants to go this weekend? I'll teleport forward a bit by taking Shoemaker rd further.
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Those Sierra Club archives are amazing. Too bad they are not searchable...
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I would ride with you but I will already be riding, unfortunately not with you (but maybe against you? Bikefights.com). How do you think the section will be after you teleport?

Also, doesn’t look bike friendly ;)
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Post by Nate U »

Admirable effort. I think you were about a mile from the Bridge Fire burn zone. If I were you, I'd stay within that...
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It's not bike friendly YET! Like Nate said, I wasn't all that far from the burn area. I think I'll stay on Shoemaker rd a bit more, and climb the ridge to pick up the trail at the start of the burn area, and then see how it is. There should be little brush but some terrain challenges. Will be a great time. Come with, both of you!
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I can’t, I gotta do a shakedown ride before my tour.