I dont know if either counts unless you are wearing the official "Eaton Canyon" jacket....by Ring of Fire. Only the jacket too Additional clothing is cheating...just ask the swimming community.
BTW Taco, are you up to helping me ascend 'fallen canyoneer's point' near Idlehour? I think I can get up there from another direction, but dont want to take any chances that I fall short of the goal like last time.
Its an unofficial highpoint on the ridge. Its just one of those places where climbing skillz might be necessary to summit. I guesstimate the short climb at no more than 5.4, if it even needs to be climbed like I said.