mary had a lytle lamb

Dudley Heinsbergen · Post by **Dudley Heinsbergen** » Sat May 16, 2009 8:24 pm

or maybe she had 5 lamb, 11 ewe and 4 ram.

its 6 pm yesterday, and after me and 3 of my friends are down for a dunk at the falls. we head up the slippery stones and i spot a llama 50 feet up the creek.

"what the fuck is a llama doing in the Cucamonga Wilderness?" i ask myself.
"what the fuck are two llamas doing here?"

i look closer, and notice 3 more. theyre ewes, and theyre running up the hill faster than shit. i run as fast as i can, tripping all over myself as my dream of seeing Nelson Bighorn Sheep finally comes true.

i count more than 20 in the herd. 4 young rams are the last up the steep wash, looking back at us, observing the weird colors of our t-shirts.

we are astonished as we head up to the falls. we swim 10 minutes goes by, then 3 ewes and a lamb come cascading down the face to the right, not even noticing us. theyre probably no more than 20 feet away across the creek. it takes them 12 seconds to accomplish something it would take Norman Clyde 12 hours.

pix soon..

Post by **Taco** » Sat May 16, 2009 11:19 pm

Wait... sheep, or llamas?

Mike P · Post by **Mike P** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:21 am

Out of curiosity... have you had your eyes checked recently?

Dudley Heinsbergen · Post by **Dudley Heinsbergen** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:06 am

i thought they were llamas at first

hvydrt · Post by **hvydrt** » Sun May 17, 2009 7:06 pm

"what the f is a llama doing in the Cucamonga Wilderness?" i ask myself.
"what the f are two llamas doing here?"

Did you guys burn a whole one on the way to the falls? That might explain the mistaken llamas?

cougarmagic · Post by **cougarmagic** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:39 pm

soooooo.jealous.

8)

Post by **Hikin_Jim** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:46 pm

NICE sighting.

Mike P · Post by **Mike P** » Sun May 17, 2009 8:49 pm

Dudley Heinsbergen wrote:i thought they were llamas at first

Llama:

Bighorn:

Now you have let the cat out of the bag! The USFS has kept the San Gabriel llama herds a secret for years...
*************
I know we're going overboard now. It was just too fun to pass up!

Anyhow, you are very lucky to see so many bighorn. Great pics!

Post by **HikeUp** » Sun May 17, 2009 9:01 pm

Here's a llama I saw this weekend in Ice House Canyon. At first I thought it was a dog, but...

Zach · Post by **Zach** » Sun May 17, 2009 10:04 pm

At first, I thought it was a llama...

Dudley Heinsbergen · Post by **Dudley Heinsbergen** » Mon May 18, 2009 6:45 am

yes most definately scorched!

Elwood · Post by **Elwood** » Mon May 18, 2009 7:30 am

Cedar Glen 2 September, 2007. Not Photoshop, I swear.

All kidding aside, those are great o.c. Nelsoni pictures, thanks for posting them.

mattmaxon · Post by **mattmaxon** » Mon May 18, 2009 8:03 am

Elwood wrote:Cedar Glen 2 September, 2007. Not Photoshop, I swear

There are several Llama Packers along with goat packers here locally

http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/

http://www.llama.org/

It is a great way for someone who can't carry a pack and doesn't want to deal with a horse

Cheers
Matt

Post by **Hikin_Jim** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:03 am

mattmaxon wrote:
Elwood wrote:Cedar Glen 2 September, 2007. Not Photoshop, I swear
There are several Llama Packers along with goat packers here locally

http://www.northwestpackgoats.com/

http://www.llama.org/

It is a great way for someone who can't carry a pack and doesn't want to deal with a horse

Cheers
Matt

Goat packers?

Can't say I've ever heard of that. I have seen llamas out on the trail.

mattmaxon · Post by **mattmaxon** » Mon May 18, 2009 9:09 am

Hikin_Jim wrote:Goat packers? Can't say I've ever heard of that. I have seen llamas out on the trail.

Yeah
One PCTA member that comes to mind is "Sweet Goat Mama"

http://www.goattracksmagazine.com/

Cheers
Matt

Post by **Hikin_Jim** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:02 am

Fascinating. Mules, llamas, and now goats.

I wonder if anyone has ever written up an article comparing and contrasting them.

I would think, though, that non-native goats might be pretty destructive in Alpine areas. Don't goats eat pretty darn near anything and leave bare earth behind? I know they've had erosion problems on the channel islands due to goat defoliation.

That being said, I have no idea how llamas affect things like meadows. Mules of course turn trails into trenches filled with a fine powder dust that goes deep into the lungs. I'm not all that hot on mules in the wilderness either.

Ze Hiker · Post by **Ze Hiker** » Mon May 18, 2009 11:31 am

IHC last July

outwhere · Post by **outwhere** » Mon May 18, 2009 3:41 pm

hvydrt wrote:Did you guys burn a whole one on the way to the falls? That might explain the mistaken llamas?

hvydrt,

Didn't you see that Dudley is from Orange County? Nobody in Orange County uses drugs, or even marijuana, they all still abide by Nancy Reagan's 'Just Say No' campaign. Also, God Bless America, forgot all the other countries around the world, God doesn't care about them.

Zach · Post by **Zach** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:25 pm

llama packers= attention whores...

carry your own sh!t

Post by **Taco** » Mon May 18, 2009 5:38 pm

Armored bears are a thousand times cooler.