That's because you're a religious leader...TacoDelRio wrote:My avatar rings true at the moment. I have no idea what the hell is going on. Thank you, Russian Standard Vodka.
Misc. News (Archive)
Studies of diversity
http://www.fs.fed.us/psw/publications/d ... sw_gtr210/
Note: viewable document is 225 pages long
"The supervisors expressed concern that the needs of the diverse visitors may not be being met because the sites were often developed with White visitors in mind, and thought it was beneficial for PSW to provide scientific information about the diverse outdoor recreation visitors who were using USFS lands for outdoor recreation."
granted there area lot of charged snipets...'Historical context(of planning for a “traditional White” visitor experience, and a general lack of feeling welcomed has been discussed by Johnson et al. (1998) as emerging from
the history of slavery among African Americans in the United States, resulting in a negative relationship with the natural resource base..
Most of the paper centers on the San Gabriel River canyon and San Bernadino forest...in my opinion this was a waste of taxpayer money. The results are basically akin to bringing this up in an internet chat room and getting 'the dirt' on different races and then broadening that to stereotypes...from the reason that Asians go to the SBF is to pick ferns to a question as to the habits of Whites pigging up places and Blacks not feeling safe.
But this will be the last item about this...ridiculous stuff.
http://www.fs.fed.us/psw/publications/d ... sw_gtr210/
Note: viewable document is 225 pages long
"The supervisors expressed concern that the needs of the diverse visitors may not be being met because the sites were often developed with White visitors in mind, and thought it was beneficial for PSW to provide scientific information about the diverse outdoor recreation visitors who were using USFS lands for outdoor recreation."
granted there area lot of charged snipets...'Historical context(of planning for a “traditional White” visitor experience, and a general lack of feeling welcomed has been discussed by Johnson et al. (1998) as emerging from
the history of slavery among African Americans in the United States, resulting in a negative relationship with the natural resource base..
Most of the paper centers on the San Gabriel River canyon and San Bernadino forest...in my opinion this was a waste of taxpayer money. The results are basically akin to bringing this up in an internet chat room and getting 'the dirt' on different races and then broadening that to stereotypes...from the reason that Asians go to the SBF is to pick ferns to a question as to the habits of Whites pigging up places and Blacks not feeling safe.
But this will be the last item about this...ridiculous stuff.
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All this time my asian ass was having a "white" forest experience? Good to know..
Didn't you know that asian, hispanic, caucasian, and african feet hit the ground differently? Yes, it's true. And all those trails out there were built for caucasian feet. Thus asians, hispanics, and africans are alienated. The solution? We need to build trails specifically designed for each type of foot. End racist trails NOW!
And camping? Flat dirt spots are different for each race. In like manner, we need to build separate facilities for each, all of them "separate but equal." "Separate but equal?" That sounds familiar. I wonder where that term comes from? Well, never mind that, but the point is that adopting a "separate but equal" policy will eliminate the clearly racist nature of our natural areas.
And camping? Flat dirt spots are different for each race. In like manner, we need to build separate facilities for each, all of them "separate but equal." "Separate but equal?" That sounds familiar. I wonder where that term comes from? Well, never mind that, but the point is that adopting a "separate but equal" policy will eliminate the clearly racist nature of our natural areas.
You dont want to know how much that report costs...and the only change that matters is funding....public policy is easy...lower or eliminate the adventure pass, clean up the place and throw out the criminals, maintain the place as capacity requires and keep employee morale high....and lest we forget..make sure all cultures are happy 
I 1/325,432,564th apologize.TacoDelRio wrote:Uh, excuse me, AW and Jim, btu I am very offended right now, being approximately 1/325,432,564th Mongolian by assumption. Please cease your racist comments.
hate to start it off this way...
79-year-old SoCal hiker dies after Los Padres fall
http://www.cbs47.tv/news/state/story.as ... 8f&rss=154
"Deputy Medical Examiner Shasta Gainer says Hugh Blanchard of Glendale died Sunday, a day after falling to the base of a waterfall near the Castaic Mine..."
Hugh Blanchard of http://www.lagoldmines.com/ which also contains a letter from the family.
Adventure on the urban edge at Millard Campground near Pasadena
http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-t ... -2008nov30
"Just over the hill from one of the most unchecked concrete jungles on Earth, Millard Canyon is its own basic but impressive vanishing act. Exit the 210 Freeway, shoot up Lake Avenue to the foot of the San Gabriel Mountains and, about a mile up the hill, the great urban haze morphs into the great outdoors in a single hairpin turn.....Last fall, the issue of converting Millard Campground back to a day-use-only picnic area was raised among Angeles National Forest personnel...the issue was dropped for the time being. "My prediction is that Millard Campground is going to stay a campground for at least the next five years," he says."
Snow musings(not san gabriels)...basically Big Bear is now open
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/sports/more/ ... woosh.html
http://www.bigbeargrizzly.net/articles/ ... onsnow.txt
Visitors to national forests on the decline
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27970449/
no quotes here 8)
SoCal trout stocking avoids big hit
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_1109099 ... st_emailed
"....In Southern California, only Big Tujunga Creek, both the upper and lower portions, Little Rock Reservoir, Piru Creek, and the East and West Forks of the San Gabriel River have been banned from receiving hatchery trout. All other waters normally stocked in this region can continue to receive plants"
Duarte moves forward on Nature Walk plan
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_11059933?source=rss
"The area, which actually lies inside Azusa city limits, currently is cordoned off with a chain-link fence. Overgrown vegetation makes it look "creepy," Herrera said, and it's also become a hangout for transients"
Plea for donations for puppies tossed into SG river...
http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/News ... geId=3.2.1
Water...many many news items..but appears that at least northern california is now predicted to have normal rainfall.
http://www.the-signal.com/news/article/6505/
"Sodium hydroxide added to a mixture of water and sand draws the calcium out of the water and coats each grain of sand"
http://www.agweekly.com/articles/2008/1 ... opin01.txt
OT: Tiger salamanders & Santa Ynez Valley
http://www.syvnews.com/articles/2008/12 ... news04.txt
"But the California tiger salamander made it onto the endangered species list and has since then disrupted many development projects."
OT: San Jacinto RA & big horn sheep
http://www.mydesert.com/article/2008112 ... 1144/RSS26
"The multiple species plan conserves core habitat for 27 species that are endangered or could become endangered.....Instead of closing trails to public use at certain times of the year on the assumption of a negative impact on peninsular bighorn sheep, the plan calls for scientific study to determine any impacts, Foote said"
OT: Mountain lions in Michigan..thought I would include this one since this a disagreement with too FEW sightings...
http://theoaklandpress.com/articles/200 ... 162727.txt
Bear hunt thrives in San Bernardino Mountains
http://www.pe.com/localnews/sbcounty/st ... b.html?npc
"While it may not be common knowledge, he says the local mountains offer some of the best game when it comes to bears....."
Lastly, the wilderness bill was postphoned until early next year.
79-year-old SoCal hiker dies after Los Padres fall
http://www.cbs47.tv/news/state/story.as ... 8f&rss=154
"Deputy Medical Examiner Shasta Gainer says Hugh Blanchard of Glendale died Sunday, a day after falling to the base of a waterfall near the Castaic Mine..."
Hugh Blanchard of http://www.lagoldmines.com/ which also contains a letter from the family.
Adventure on the urban edge at Millard Campground near Pasadena
http://travel.latimes.com/articles/la-t ... -2008nov30
"Just over the hill from one of the most unchecked concrete jungles on Earth, Millard Canyon is its own basic but impressive vanishing act. Exit the 210 Freeway, shoot up Lake Avenue to the foot of the San Gabriel Mountains and, about a mile up the hill, the great urban haze morphs into the great outdoors in a single hairpin turn.....Last fall, the issue of converting Millard Campground back to a day-use-only picnic area was raised among Angeles National Forest personnel...the issue was dropped for the time being. "My prediction is that Millard Campground is going to stay a campground for at least the next five years," he says."
Snow musings(not san gabriels)...basically Big Bear is now open
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/sports/more/ ... woosh.html
http://www.bigbeargrizzly.net/articles/ ... onsnow.txt
Visitors to national forests on the decline
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27970449/
no quotes here 8)
SoCal trout stocking avoids big hit
http://www.dailybulletin.com/ci_1109099 ... st_emailed
"....In Southern California, only Big Tujunga Creek, both the upper and lower portions, Little Rock Reservoir, Piru Creek, and the East and West Forks of the San Gabriel River have been banned from receiving hatchery trout. All other waters normally stocked in this region can continue to receive plants"
Duarte moves forward on Nature Walk plan
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/ci_11059933?source=rss
"The area, which actually lies inside Azusa city limits, currently is cordoned off with a chain-link fence. Overgrown vegetation makes it look "creepy," Herrera said, and it's also become a hangout for transients"
Plea for donations for puppies tossed into SG river...
http://www.myfoxla.com/myfox/pages/News ... geId=3.2.1
Water...many many news items..but appears that at least northern california is now predicted to have normal rainfall.
http://www.the-signal.com/news/article/6505/
"Sodium hydroxide added to a mixture of water and sand draws the calcium out of the water and coats each grain of sand"
http://www.agweekly.com/articles/2008/1 ... opin01.txt
OT: Tiger salamanders & Santa Ynez Valley
http://www.syvnews.com/articles/2008/12 ... news04.txt
"But the California tiger salamander made it onto the endangered species list and has since then disrupted many development projects."
OT: San Jacinto RA & big horn sheep
http://www.mydesert.com/article/2008112 ... 1144/RSS26
"The multiple species plan conserves core habitat for 27 species that are endangered or could become endangered.....Instead of closing trails to public use at certain times of the year on the assumption of a negative impact on peninsular bighorn sheep, the plan calls for scientific study to determine any impacts, Foote said"
OT: Mountain lions in Michigan..thought I would include this one since this a disagreement with too FEW sightings...
http://theoaklandpress.com/articles/200 ... 162727.txt
Bear hunt thrives in San Bernardino Mountains
http://www.pe.com/localnews/sbcounty/st ... b.html?npc
"While it may not be common knowledge, he says the local mountains offer some of the best game when it comes to bears....."
Lastly, the wilderness bill was postphoned until early next year.
No need to start another thread...
Presented without comment...bear your arms etc.
Presented without comment...bear your arms etc.
New rule eases ban on firearms in national parks
By MATTHEW DALY, Associated Press Writer Matthew Daly, Associated Press Writer Fri Dec 5, 4:33 pm ET
WASHINGTON – People will now be able to carry concealed firearms in some national parks and wildlife refuges.
An Interior Department rule issued Friday allows an individual to carry a loaded weapon in a park or wildlife refuge — but only if the person has a permit for a concealed weapon, and if the state where the park or refuge is located also allows loaded firearms in parks.
The rule overturns a Reagan-era regulation that has restricted loaded guns in parks and wildlife refuges. The previous regulations required that firearms be unloaded and placed somewhere that is not easily accessible, such as in a car trunk.
Assistant Interior Secretary Lyle Laverty said the new rule respects a long tradition of states and the federal government working together on natural resource issues.
The regulation allows individuals to carry concealed firearms in federal parks and wildlife refuges to the same extent they can lawfully do so under state law, Laverty said, adding that the approach is in line with rules adopted by the federal Bureau of Land Management and the U.S. Forest Service. Those agencies let visitors carry weapons consistent with applicable federal and state laws.
The National Rifle Association hailed the rule change, which will take effect next month before President-elect Barack Obama takes office.
"We are pleased that the Interior Department recognizes the right of law-abiding citizens to protect themselves and their families while enjoying America's national parks and wildlife refuges," said Chris W. Cox, the NRA's chief lobbyist.
The rule will restore the rights of law-abiding gun owners on federal lands and make federal law consistent with the state where the lands are located, Cox said. The NRA led efforts to change gun regulations they called inconsistent and unclear.
A group representing park rangers, retirees and conservation organizations said the rule change will lead to confusion for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.
"Once again, political leaders in the Bush administration have ignored the preferences of the American public by succumbing to political pressure, in this case generated by the National Rifle Association," said Bill Wade, president of the Coalition of National Park Service Retirees.
"This regulation will put visitors, employees and precious resources of the National Park System at risk. We will do everything possible to overturn it and return to a commonsense approach to guns in national parks that has been working for decades," Wade said.
The park rule will be published in the Federal Register next week and take effect 30 days later, well before Obama takes office Jan. 20. Overturning the rule could take months or even years, since it would require the new administration to restart the lengthy rule-making process.
How will it be more confusing when the the law inside National Parks will now be the same as the law outside the National Parks? Could this be bullshit?HikeUp wrote:A group representing park rangers, retirees and conservation organizations said the rule change will lead to confusion for visitors, rangers and other law enforcement agencies.
Nunc est bibendum
Apparently, not much is known about the death. It may not be hiking related.AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...
L.A. Times
Southern California -- this just in
Body found in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park
9:22 AM, December 17, 2008
A man was found dead in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park this morning, officials said.
The body was found by authorities at 6:40 a.m. along a hiking trail in the canyon, not far from the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, said Sgt. Mark Slater of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.
The man was believed to be a Latino in his 30s, he said.
The cause of death is unknown, and it’s also uncertain how long the body had been in the canyon, Slater said.
--Nathan Olivarez-Giles
A couple of weekends ago I was walking around the nature trails that surround the Nature Center. I swear I didn't do it. Don't remember stepping over any bodies either, although there was an apparently homeless guy I think I disturbed by accident near the fenced off maintenance area.Hikin_Jim wrote:Apparently, not much is known about the death. It may not be hiking related.AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...
L.A. Times
Southern California -- this just in
Body found in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park
9:22 AM, December 17, 2008
A man was found dead in Pasadena’s Eaton Canyon Park this morning, officials said.
The body was found by authorities at 6:40 a.m. along a hiking trail in the canyon, not far from the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, said Sgt. Mark Slater of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.
The man was believed to be a Latino in his 30s, he said.
The cause of death is unknown, and it’s also uncertain how long the body had been in the canyon, Slater said.
--Nathan Olivarez-Giles
http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_11254130AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...
Suicide apparently.
Body in Eaton Canyon is suicide victim
Article Launched: 12/17/2008 11:03:06 AM PST
ALTADENA - A man whose body was discovered on a hiking trail in Eaton Canyon this morning committed suicide, sheriff's officials said.
A suicide note was discovered near the body of the man, believed to be in his 30s. He was discovered at about 7 a.m. near the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, sheriff's officials said.
The man died of a single gunshot wound to the head, officials said.
Crap.HikeUp wrote:http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/news/ci_11254130AW wrote:Death reported in Eaton Canyon wash today, just west of the Nature Center along the trail...per the local news...
Suicide apparently.Body in Eaton Canyon is suicide victim
Article Launched: 12/17/2008 11:03:06 AM PST
ALTADENA - A man whose body was discovered on a hiking trail in Eaton Canyon this morning committed suicide, sheriff's officials said.
A suicide note was discovered near the body of the man, believed to be in his 30s. He was discovered at about 7 a.m. near the Eaton Canyon Nature Center, sheriff's officials said.
The man died of a single gunshot wound to the head, officials said.
Gonna see a lot of that in the next few months.
Nunc est bibendum
Maybe simonov is talking about this:
Gerald Celente, the CEO of Trends Research Institute, is renowned for his accuracy in predicting future world and economic events, which will send a chill down your spine considering what he told Fox News this week.
Celente says that by 2012 America will become an undeveloped nation, that there will be a revolution marked by food riots, squatter rebellions, tax revolts and job marches, and that holidays will be more about obtaining food, not gifts.
Actually I'm referring to the greatest economic calamity to hit this country since the 1930s.
Nunc est bibendum
Hmm. Interesting study although it's sample if I'm reading it correctly was taken only from Alberta.
One wonders if such things differ here in another country, although I hope they don't.
