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by locator
Mon Aug 17, 2015 10:19 am
Forum: Other SoCal Ranges
Topic: canyons in SB
Replies: 2
Views: 793

Re: canyons in SB

2N49 is a long trail
by locator
Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:41 am
Forum: Other SoCal Ranges
Topic: canyons in SB
Replies: 2
Views: 793

canyons in SB

title says it all!
by locator
Mon Aug 03, 2015 2:02 pm
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

got a response from NMMR (national mine map repository)

Despite the accurate information you provided, we were unable to locate any further documentation in regards to the "Boatwright Prospect" (as well as "Bell Hartman"). However, there is one mine in our database that involves Molybdenum as a ...
by locator
Thu Jul 30, 2015 10:30 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

as far as Dwight Crowder, the geologist/author of that USGS report that names "Boatwright Canyon"..I am pretty sure hes dead. Him and his wife died in separate car accidents (30 years apart) on the same road very near each other.

"Environmental leader Betsy Crowder killed in accident "

http://www ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:31 pm
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

this database also seems to have a search function for land patents nationwide...

http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/results/d ... sadv=false

some of them have images, I just looked at the lester loomis 1919 patent in pdf format free!

but the CA textfiles have some entires that are not showing up in ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:46 pm
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

okay so the township range section works like this:

http://nationalmap.gov/small_scale/a_plss.html

I downloaded the township grid for CA here, which is viewable in google earth.

http://www.earthpoint.us/TownshipsCalifornia.aspx

Then I imported the CA land patents database text file into ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:00 pm
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

okay that township coordinates system is some kind of government blm/gis thing

looking at this map it looks like the same coordinate system is being used

so my idea is, if you know where a mine/propsect is, and want to find the patent, locate it using GPS or whatever on the PLSS system, then you ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:37 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

from that CA claim/patent doc:

"Using this information you can obtain copies of the patent file for $10 from
the National Archives at the following address:

Reference Branch (Lands)
National Archives
Washington, DC 20408
(202) 501-5428 "


wow ...that could be useful in the future

or if we can ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:33 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon



Very interesting!!!

Blanchard was just going by what John Robinson said in "Mines of the San Gabriels" right? I wonder what that book says specifically about the area and how Blanchard might have been misled?

"In John Robinson's Mines of the San Gabriels, published 34 years ago and long out of ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:08 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

so I guess its called a "prospect" when they are seeing what might be there, and a "mine" when they actually find something and start major excavating..

and Boatwright never made it to "mine" because there was just traces..and so they abandoned it.

Would be interesting to see who filed the claim ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:53 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

I think the NMMR took over for the USBoM and they probably have the records/maps..but they are down till mid August

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ ... Repository
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:46 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

There may have been some error by Blanchard on the name "Bell-Hartman" as old mining records term it as the "Boatwright Prospect".

http://westernmininghistory.com/mine_detail/10260611
Very interesting!!!

Blanchard was just going by what John Robinson said in "Mines of the San Gabriels" right ...
by locator
Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:36 am
Forum: San Gabriels
Topic: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon
Replies: 39
Views: 1676

Re: A mine and a gully to Devil's Canyon

The cabin is located here:

34°19'0.82"N

118° 0'21.23"W

https://www.google.com/maps/place/34%C2 ... !1s0x0:0x0

If you go please record your trail waypoint KML and share it

Also if you can find any model numbers on that large piece of equipment it would help in identifying exactly what it is ...